I think that's a bit of an overstatement ;)  The Winchesters were fine, you
could run 2G fine (2*1GB sticks) or 4 sticks (at DDR333) as the memory
controller in them was set for 333.

:)

CW

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [H] AMD CPU question

Venice, San Diego, Manchester (512KB dual core, 3800+, 4200+, 4600+), and 
Toledo (1MB dual core, 4400+, 4800+...I have a Toledo) all share the same 
memory controller, so yes.

Winchesters seemed to have a lot of issues....

Greg

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'The Hardware List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:23 PM
Subject: RE: [H] AMD CPU question


> No, my 3000 is a Winchester.  I think that's the earlier one that had the
> problems.
>
> So if I go for a new dual core, or a venice I should be okay?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:53 PM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: Re: [H] AMD CPU question
>
> Is your 3000+ a Venice?
>
> The Venice/San-Diego is the first memory controller that can handle 
> running
> four sticks of memory at DDR400 speeds. Previous cores could only do 
> DDR333
> (or was it 2T?) reliably.
>
> If it is a Venice, you won't have any better luck with a Toledo or
> Manchester dual core, as they use the exact same memory controller present
> in the Venice/San-Diego.
>
> If it isn't a Venice, you can get a 3000+ 1.8GHz Venice model and push it 
> to
> 2.6 or 2.7GHz, and it should work fine with four modules.
>
> Greg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'The Hardware List'" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:47 PM
> Subject: [H] AMD CPU question
>
>
>> I've had an Athlon 64 3000+ cpu for about 6 months now.  It's been a 
>> great
>> system.  I'm currently running xp64 as well and they are rock stable.
>>
>> However, I've had problems getting 4 sticks(2 gigs of ram) to work at the
>> correct speed.  I've read various articles about the memory controller
>> being
>> on the CPU, and some of the Athlons having problems.
>>
>> I'm thinking about upgrading to the dual core chips.  Will I have a
>> problem
>> with those as well?  I'd really like to be able to use all 4 sticks, at
>> full
>> speed.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>
>
> 


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