I think the reason I picked the Venice over the Clawhammer was the smaller die so it is even cooler? I'm not sure if the Clawhammer supports the "cool and steady" daemon that AMD has. Basically it's a daemon that runs in the background to keep the CPU cool by detecting idle time and lowering the power. I usually hate running such things but it seems to work great under Windows 2000.
>From my old dual P3-933, the new AMD 64 bit cpu runs MUCH MUCH cooler than the old setup and more megahertz than my 2 old CPUs combined. :) I did have a Soundblaster Audigy 2 PCI card in it before, but when I used it's firewire at the same time I did notice some slight instability. I blame it on the card since I have crashed with it before on the old motherboard as well. - Carroll Kong > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:21 AM > To: The Hardware List > Subject: RE: [H] AMD board and CPU > > Thanks for the advice. Your right about the chipset.... don't > want VIA. That is what is on my Tyan Tiger, and what is > probably causing my problem. So what do you think about a > > MSI K8N Neo-V Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce3 250 ATX AMD > Motherboard with a AMD Athlon 64 2800 retail box I notice > some Athlons show as Clawhammer.... what is the difference? > > I can do this combo for $170.00 ... I have been doing Xeon > dual setups and high end P4 for the last two years so this > seems like nothing! :) Oddly enough selling off the compents > of my Dual PIII = Crucial ECC RAM and the two matching PIIIs > I will probably make money on the deal! > > If you buy a board like this with onboard NIC and sound can > you be assured of 64bit drivers? The only thing I wish the > board had was a GB NIC. > > > > > > At 06:02 AM 12/14/2005, you wrote: > > > I'm not an AMD guru, but I had a nearly identical setup > to you! Old dual > P3-933 on Tyan Thunder workstation. I ran into some > odd problems with it so > I finally decided to upgrade to AMD (I haven't used AMD > since the K6-200 > days). > > I went with the MSI NF4 K8N 7125 NEO4-F and 3000+ > ATHLON 64 939P. It's > probably a touch bit more expensive than your choice > but you can always drop > the clock down. I'm always worried about the chipsets > myself, but I think > the latest 64 bit offerings from AMD seem more stable > than the Socket A > selection (which wasn't that horrible either if you > knew how to get around > the weirdness). > > > > - Carroll Kong > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Winterlight > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:58 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [H] AMD board and CPU > > > > I have a old,k dual 1GB Tyan 250 setup that is used for > > storage with my old PATA collection, as well as Video > > recording with a AIW 9600 PRO. The board is giving me > > problems, so I am thinking of upgrading to a AMD setup. I > > haven't worked with AMD since the K62 days. > > > > I don't want to spend any real money for this, it is just my > > third computer that I rarely turn on, but it is > useful to have it > > > > ....Newegg has these for around $150, but I have no idea > > what it is! I know the Sempron isn't their fastest chip, but > > this a 64 bit setup isn't it? How does this chip compare to a > > P4 ... is it suppose to be equal to a 3100 > > > > MSI K8T Neo-V Socket 754 VIA K8T800 ATX AMD > Motherboard - Retail $55 > > > > AMD Sempron 64 3100+ Palermo 800MHz FSB Socket 754 Processor > > Model SDA3100BXBOX - Retail $100 > > > > I need the AGP slot and I don't need anything on board... I > > have a SMC GB NIC PCI card and a PCI SB Live Value and a > > Antec 550 True Value Xeon PS with a 20 pin ATX adaptor. I > > just need the board and the CPU. And I want no problems ... > > just reliable computing. > > > > Could a AMD guru let me know if this sound like a good value? > > > >
