At 03:13 AM 23/12/2005, Neil Atwood wrote:
We are dealing with matters of truth here. Either something is true or it is not. There is discoverable truth about Jesus, because he was a real historical figure, and therefore we can employ the same approach to examining him and his claims as we do any historical figure.

Ok, I find this direction interesting. Is there any proof of the existance of Jesus other than the Bible?

One thing is very, very clear: Jesus claimed to be the incarnate Son of God, and any other conclusion as to his nature and role was unacceptable to him. So, if you want a discussion about that, we have to start there and use the best source material available: the Bible.

But isn't using the Bible to prove the validity of Jesus' arguments like using political pamphlet to prove the validity of that party's views?

T

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