Thanks, I do plan running x64. I'd like to try an HP box, almost all my stuff so far is Dell, loads of 1850's and a few 2850's, also got two Compaq DL580's in quad format with Xeon 1.4GHz CPU's, some of the first that came out about three and a half years ago. The Compaq boxes have been great for reliability, not a single problem but that is when it was Compaq not HP.

Chris, the system ram will be a minimum of 24 GB - knowing how Dell drop their pants when you get close to issuing a PO I guess this might increase to 32 MB :-) The power is an issue but these are going into a data centre in London and the power is included in the rack space.

OK, IBM servers are out !



----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [H] What's fastest ?


We have two identical "big" database servers at work with the following specs: 4x Xeon MP 3.0 (unknown cache) with 16GB. We have tempdb, transaction logs, and data volumes all split. To be honest, I haven't been that impressed with the performance of either. While I can only speculate, I think the real reason they appear to be such underperformers (for what they are) is that the Xeons all share a single bus.

Personally, I would strongly encourage that you look at some Proliant 4-way Opteron machines. The processor bus and memory architecture should allow more "raw" speed to become "useful" speed. Opterons have historically proven to be better database servers--quite possibly for this reason.

I'd also run Win2k3 Server x64.

Greg
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 10:45 AM
Subject: [H] What's fastest ?


Am building a database server for SQL Server 2005 Enterprise edition. OS will be Windows 2003 Server Enterprise edition. Server is probably going to be a Dell 6850 (http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/pedge_6850?c=uk&l=en&s=lca&~tab=specstab#tabtop) Although I can get older IBM servers (hence the 4MB L3 cache option below) for a very good price.

Basic spec is 4 CPU's, 24 GB of RAM and an external disk array. Just wondering how much performance difference there is between the followoing CPU's:

4 x Xeon MP 3.0 GHz 4MB L3 cache (400 MHz FSB ?)
4 x Xeon MP 3.0 GHz 8 MB L3 cache (667 MHz FSB)
4 x Xeon 3.6 GHz 1 MB L2 cache
4 x Xeon dual core 2.6 GHz 2 x 1 MB L2 cache

My gut reaction says the 8 MB L3 cache chips will be faster than even the dual core chips in real world performance. Anybody else have a view ?

Thanks, Steve





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