Well part of my job duties is to collect and research malware. I would
always highly recommend to reinstall. When a virus is installed on your
system and its ran as administrator you have just as much control over
your system as the virus does. Virus can install a rootkit to patch your
operating system so that you don't see its network traffic, filesystem
activity, kernel operations, and registry activity. It could even patch
the OS so that any tools you use will not display proper output. Now in
these cases yes its possible to clean your system but is it worth the
several days of research you need to do before your totally sure its
removed? I would say no to most people but if your in the field or
you're a researcher like Mark Russonovich from sysinternals then yes its
worth it.

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At 03:20 PM 10/02/2006, Mesdaq, Ali wrote:
>Honestly just reformat. If you were to try to clean it you would need
to
>be versed in rootkit detection and other kernel level skills to even be
>remotely able to clean out a partially sophisticated virus. Its just
>totally not worth it then you never have the peace of mind you got rid
>of all of them.

Man, I'm shocked at the surrender attitude coming from this 
list.  Removing viruses and spyware is possible, and really isn't 
much more time consuming than a reinstall, and is much less time 
consuming than a reinstall plus software install plus configuration 
plus data recovery.  (Especially since data back without virus scan 
makes the reinstall questionable as viruses can hide in apparent data
files.


T 


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