----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Hardware List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [hardware] [H] Installer on startup


>
> One can always install the HP drivers without installing the apps but it
> has to be done manually as there is no install for this. I did it with my
> HP720 years ago & again with the G55 that I have now so there is no bloat.
>

Do you remember awhile back I was asking on one list for the media for
Windows XP Media Center Edition? Some of yall frowned because I was
technically violating the Microsoft rules.

I do clean installs on name brand computers, not the loaded install the name
brand manufacturer does. Since nobody offered me the media (I did not want
any Product Key as that would be illegal) I purchased a Windows XP Media
Center Edition kit from my supplier, ASI.

A dead HP Media Center Edition m480n computer came in last night. I rebuilt
that rascal. I used a new Enlight case with a 450 watt power supply
(replacing the HP 200 watt power supply), a new Asus P4P800 SE motherboard,
the customer's P4 3.2 GHz CPU, the customer's RAM plus one stick to upgrade
to 1024 MB, the customer's video card, the customer's modem, a new Seagate
250 GB hard drive, the customer's CD/DVD ROM and Writing devices and the
customer's Asus TV tuner card with Conexant chips on it.

Look at the massive hardware changes I did on that HP. Note that all
customer furnished parts were original HP in that m480n except the DVD ROM
and the DVD Writer. The customer had already changed these out after
realizing that Hewlett Packard installs cheap components that do not meet
the needs of most power users.

My point here is that when I went to authenticate the clean install of
Windows XP Media Center Edition it went right through! I did not even have
to call Microsoft! I have to call Microsoft to authenticate clean installs
on most name brand computers, even when there is absolutely no hardware
changes. Rarely do I have to call Microsoft when I authenticate the
installation of Windows on a rebuild job, no matter how many components I
replace. At a minimum, I replace the case and the motherboard, as these are
the ONLY hardware components that tag any computer as a proprietary name
brand computer. I always use the Product Key that appears on the COA affixed
to the name brand computer.

My question here is does anyone have the drivers for the Asus TV card that
is installed in these HP Media Center computers?  This is the only hardware
that I can not find drivers for. The HP site offers only the restore
software. Driverguide.com did no better for me. Belarc Advisor, Driver
Detective and others simply do not list devices that have no drivers, yet
they are listed in Device Manager. I can not even identify the TV card
properly. I attached the Belarc Advisor results. I do not know if this list
allows attachments such as this. If the attachment is allowed it will come in another message (if approved by the moderators).

Is there any software that will identify all hardware, even the hardware
that is not properly installed due to lack of drivers?

Any advice on this will be appreciated.

Chuck

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