Oh and http://www.biodieselnow.com/


From: "Hayes Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:16:29 -0500

The easy answer is to get a vehicle with a diesel engine. That way you can now use biodiesel and BD blends, which work in any diesel car and you are not paying a four figure premium to use antiquated nickel battery technology in these overhyped hybrids.

Biodiesel appeals to both sides of the political spectrum. It pleases hippies to no end because it is a true "green" fuel, burns cleaner than gas and has nearly ZERO emissions that contribute to the greenhouse effect. Biodiesel also can be a 100% american product, from harvesting to refining. That means no money goes to OPEC and instead goes to american labor. Also biodiesel has better lubricating qualities than traditional diesel fuel. The lifeblood of our country, the diesel trucking industry, are now starting to realize its potential to extend engine life. Imagine changing your fuel filter just twice in a span of 500,000 miles? (Assuming you use BD from the start, otherwise an older car will need its fuel filter changed at first, because BD will loosen all gunk and the filter will be full after a few days driving.)

If you think about it, it's pretty inexcusable why biodiesel is not a mainstream fuel already. Win-win for everybody save for OPEC scum.

I bought a Jetta TDI this year and I'm getting around 46mpg real-world, which if you put on a lot of highway miles is better efficiency than an overpriced Prius.

From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 19:17:15 -0600

Oh, don't feel too bad. I'm currently at 4100lbs, and am looking at two vehicles...one at 4500lbs, the other at 4900lbs.

But I'm not about to feel guilty for buying and driving a vehicle I like and can afford.

I'd prefer an electric vehicle. When they finally figure out that the real solution is all-electric with nuclear, wind, solar, and hydrothermal power sources, and put a decent sized motor in a car with a Li-Ion battery that uses the nanotech Panasonic invented, and can do so without being $80,000, I'm there. Until then, I'm going to buy vehicles with big fat V8's.

Greg

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Ruset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 5:36 PM
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Oh. Well then I am even worse.

Greg Sevart wrote:
Hah!
2006 Wrangler...the lightest one (2.4L I4 with manual tranny) is 3200lbs.
:)

Greg

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Ruset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [H] google search for "failure"


Jeep Wrangler!

Greg Sevart wrote:
They make SUVs that are only 2500lbs?
:)

Greg

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Ruset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [H] google search for "failure"


I drive my 2500lb SUV 1 mile to get on a bus to NY. Am I green or wasteful? :)

Also, my cellphone can take video, so I guess I do have some form of video camera.

FORC5 wrote:
I do not have one of those or a video camera.
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At 08:33 AM 3/2/2006, Al Poked the stick with:

The scary part is the rest of the world is waking up and saying; "Where is my 2500 lb. SUV to drive 1/4 mile to the video store?"














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