Re: [H] Failure Cars Standard with Wings was....

[Stan Zaske]

I'm not spelling doom and gloom for AMD. Believe me I'm on the side of the underdog in this case and agree that if AMD pulls out the stops between now and Summer they can debut an AM2 architecture powerful enough to provide a viable upgrade path and continue their growth. However, Intel was first out of the gate with pre-production hardware, has been faced with mediocre performance for many months and *will* retake the performance crown! Thank goodness AMD knows about it now instead of later and has time to push themselves to minimize reputation punishment (without the "+" hype I hope). I want AMD to continue to dominate the gaming scene even though I'm only an occasional RPG player myself. The hardware enthusiast segment is what's driving the industry and that's as it should be. Based on experience from the past nobody will remain loyal to one camp or the other when it comes to who's best! The Celeron 300A of years past proves that! If Intel produces the best hardware in the months ahead our members will make a beeline to the nearest online store to purchase it. Only the diehard faithful will accept lower performance when the rival products are price competitive. I predict that Intel will dominate the gaming performance scene for the second half of this year and well into '07. Don't forget that "best bang for the buck" in the initial months will be expensive for both companies products (A64 939 pin architectures will continue to sell very well). AMD will be somewhat cheaper but also less powerful and the hardware review sites will reluctantly agree. Intel is heading for a higher single core performance future coupled with lower energy costs and heat. Folks, if recent reports from IBM and others are true the MHz race is far from over. Possibly 5 GHz well before the end of the decade with 4 to 8 cores. Only time will tell if AMD is up to the challenge and it'll be a bad day indeed if I'm reluctantly forced to switch to an Intel architecture. Chris Reeves wrote: It's really about time Intel started moving seriously on Centrino-esque chips, which have been their strong point for the last two years in comparison to their "eh" Pentium4 line. I have full expectations these things will be some nice little items to have. On the other hand, we aren't looking at a ship date until Q3. And, over the last two years, Intel has had more paper launches that didn't get off the pad (see: Pentium IV 4.0Ghz) then I can think of. If you're AMD, you look at the results knowing that it was coming: Intel is a bigger dog, and just because they got behind for a good while doesn't mean that Intel can't come back in a big way. AMD's biggest advantage for now is a super simple one: the parts are readily available, and even their next generation (AM2) will be in the market for months before Intel's new design his the running. I think anyone who didn't believe Intel had the power to "catch back up" were fools; but waiting sixth months for a proposed processor is also "eh". I think these could be big successes for Intel. I'm also betting we start seeing the first quad-core chips by the end of the year. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:50 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Failure Cars Standard with Wings was.... Read it and weep! Or rejoice, whatever! http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2713 Jim Edwards wrote: Can we end this thread soon? Intel announce an AMD killer if you didn't know.