I see your point, but ultimately what mobile hackers (to compound the
confusion, black hats in this case) are doing is wardriving with intent
to do harm. Every tool and title has at least 2 uses, one good, the
other bad, and context defines the meaning here IMO.
As to your other point, your thinking is short-sighted. It's not
necessarily your real funds they want access to, it's your identity and
credit rating they want. So every credit card site, etc... that you give
your name, birthday, SSN, mother's maiden name, etc... (even multiple
sites collectively) to is streaming data that can do much greater harm
then a lost CC or bank acct. #. CC & bank funds tend to be virtual &
insured, your identity is another ball game.
Eventually there will be a mandated central data storage service using
public/private temporary keys to make such personal data available just
long enough and laws against caching more than the data's access key.
The same way eventually all communications will be truly secure using
the same methods and proper implementation. I'll keep the implementation
details to myself for now in case I ever get the chance to make money
doing it. ;)
Harvey Best wrote:
This was the statement that kinda bothered me, "These days you have war drivers all over > doing shady
things because WAP's & tools a common". If it had had a quantifier <sp> of "some"
Wardrivers doing shady things I don't think it would have bothered me. In all honesty I wish I understod WAP,
WEP, WPA-PSK, etc. all I know is on my wireless router I am using WPA-PSK with a 32 letter password that I let
my son make up and then my wife and I wrote it down 3 times so we could get it right. :) If someone cracks it,
they may be able to get my 32.00 bucks in the bank! I do know what you mean by unprotected networks though. At
my wife Neurosurgeon (she was having back surgery) I turned on the computer and was amazed to see the Neuro
office come up (they used their exact name) and there was not a bit of encryption. Anyone could have walked
right in. It's amazing, especially with all the new HIPA privacy laws that went into effect last year or so.
Take care.
Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 01:02:26 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [H] PC security class...> > Uh huh, and "true hackers" are white hats.> > There is no true here, just a generic term used for an action/activity, > kinda like "working". =)> > Harvey Best wrote:> > True "Wardrivers" are not doing shady things. I Wardrive as I do a lot of traveling and it's interesting. Something to do. I fix my system so that it can't connect as I Wardrive, and thats what true "Wardrivers" do. Shady people will do shady things. They don't have to be Wardriving to be shady. I have a gun to hunt with, but that doesn't make me an armed driver as I have a tool that can be used rightly or wrongly. Just my two cents. Back to watching the world go by. Oh, by the way, one of the funniest SSID names I have ever seen was in the Northern Nech area of Virginia. It was "The Barn, thats right the Barn"! That's why I "Wardrive". Recloaking. Harvey -- hbest>
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