----- Original Message ----- 
From: Al Anger 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Motherboard replacement


Chuck, Please forward this to the list as something is still broken.
thanks, al

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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "j maccraw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Why bother trying, switch the case out for new

> Do y'all realize that there 
> are only 2 proprietary major components that are used to make a name 
> brand computer a dog instead of a real computer? They are its junky case 
> and its motherboard.

In this case (pardon the pun) it's not proprietary. And also the owner 
is "attached" to the box because it was given to him by a friend. A new 
case makes it a new computer, not the one he was given. I know, it's 
silly. But that's what he wants.

Cost is also a concern for this box. It's just to play with Linux; and 
run Dos to see his old AWL, Lisp, Prolog, stuff from years ago. On 5 1/2 
inch floppies, if they don't suffer from bit rot.  :)

This is The Professor, who I have spoken of on this list. He received 
his BS in computer science at the age of 68 in 1986. He turned 86 in 
December and is still as sharp as a tack. A Princeton grad ('43), world 
traveler, and an interesting man. Taught physics and advanced chemistry 
for 28 years. But I digress...

> use a MSI 
> PM8M-V motherboard 

I might just go with this. The original motherboard is flaky, and this 
would solve the problem with the least cost. Thanks for the suggestion.

>  Yes, by simply changing out the case and motherboard and 
> doing a clean install of Windows, the computer runs much faster. 
> Actually half of that performance increase can be achieved by simply 
> formatting the hard drive and doing a clean install of Windows.

A reinstall does do wonders. Also to remove the crap lite versions of 
software that comes with a machine really helps. So much of that crap 
just like to get an icon in the tray for name recognition. Some 
(Quicktime) are rather predatory about it. One cleans up the HKLM...Run 
key only to have it back every time the software is run.

> Yes, swich the case out, also. Transform any name brand comptuer into a 
> real computer!

Respectfully, this sounds a little like like the Stones song;
(I CAN'T GET NO)SATISFACTION - 09/09/1965

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.hart/lyricsr/rolling.html

"But, he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke the same cigarettes as 
me"  :)

They are all real computers. :)



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