I guess bottom line it is their sandbox after all <:-|

I only get on this binge when I do updates on a legal machine and it want to 
install WGA or I have to go thru what I am going thru now with having to call. 
The time a couple of weeks ago when the system was down I would call ( takes 
awhile to actually get to a ppl ) and be told call back in 30 minutes, system 
is down and you do this over and over and 3 hours later ya get the job done. 
Funny thing about that, every call the PPL had a different accent. 

And then restoring a Compaq or Dell and NOT having to play this game. Why them, 
and not us. 

don't even get me started on BG wanting a flood of illegal's, like he cares 
about them. ( I guess he just wants a unlimited supply of cheap engeneers )
fp
hohoho

At 08:48 AM 3/30/2007, Scott Sipe Poked the stick with:

>I completely, 100% agree that things like activation are a complete  
>pain the butt... it's even worse with Quark software--even before  
>activation (early 90s), they made you type in at least 3 20 digit/ letter 
>combos to use the software... annoying as heck.
>
>But at the same time, you say the current scheme is not good for  
>business -- "greed." I don't really get that. If everyone bought all  
>the software they were supposed to, there wouldn't be any problems.  
>It's not like MS wants activation just to annoy people...whether it  
>is EFFECTIVE or not is an entirely different question. I don't really  
>see how it's "greed" that they want you people to actually have to  
>buy their software to use it. If software companies want to try to  
>enforce 1 sale = 1 usage, i think they're welcome to do it, but they  
>should realize too the cost to those of us who don't steal and  
>pirate. (maybe part of the reason I'm posting from a Mac! and why  
>about 1/2 the computers at work are still win2k)
>
>Scott
>
>On Mar 30, 2007, at 10:55 AM, FORC5 wrote:
>
>>didn't seem to hurt profits much. >:-}
>>current anti piracy can be a pain. There is something terribly  
>>wrong when one wants to change a hard drive or video card ( in  
>>Vista )( I had to reactivate Vista when I stretched a 200gb  
>>partition to 250.) and have to call mother to ask permission.  
>>Especially when MS issues SW to Dell and the like that does not.  
>>Just restored a Dell with RTM sw, what a pleasure to not input a  
>>key or need to activate. And it was a genuine install disk, not a  
>>restore disk because I streamed sp2 into it.
>>
>>I have a customer box on the bench who I replaced a MB 2 weeks ago,  
>>activation was painless but as luck would have it suffered crib  
>>death and I have to replace it again and windows will not even let  
>>me log on without first activating which I haven't done yet but  
>>will require a phone call which can be painless or a pain. I have  
>>only had them refuse one on a machine because I did not replace the  
>>MB with a exact factory replacement. SUCKS. Last week the system  
>>was down and I spent hours on the phone getting a system activated.  
>>Most customers have no idea about all of this and I certainly can  
>>not charge shop rate while waiting.
>>I say the 70's and 80's was good for business and current scheme is  
>>not. ( greed )
>>fp
>>
>>At 04:38 AM 3/30/2007, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>From: FORC5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Reply-To: The Hardware List <[email protected]>
>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],        The Hardware List  
>>>><[email protected]>
>>>>Subject: Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of  
>>>>Windows Piracy?
>>>>Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:25:01 -0700
>>>>
>>>>piracy is a farce create by BG who knows how to.
>>>>Want to stop piracy, allow ppl to own what they buy and install  
>>>>it as many time as they want. problem over. :-!
>>>
>>>Last I checked this is how things were in the 70's and 80's. Not  
>>>sure how well that strategy faired against piracy....
>>>
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>>-- 
>>Tallyho ! ]:8)
>>Taglines below !
>>--
>>Money is a good aphrodisiac. Flowers work almost as well.
>>
>

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