JEDEC DDRII standard voltage is 1.8v. You won't find any memory faster than
PC6400 that is rated to do its specified speed at 1.8v though. The issue is
that Micron D9GMH seems to have a tendency to fail over time at high
voltages--and that threshold seems to be >2.1.

It's really quite unfortunate...the D9GMH memory does a fantastic job at
clocking high while keeping latency reasonable. It just doesn't seem to
tolerate high voltage that well. I have personally had a Corsair 8500C5D
stick fail at 2.2v running 1040MHz. I had it replaced and I've backed down
to 900MHz 1:1 and 2.1v. The exact incidence of failure is still unknown, but
you'll find forums full of people that have dead memory.

I did look, and the Mushkin memory you list uses D9GMH. It's hard to find
high-performance memory that doesn't. The crazy thing is that the D9GMH is
only rated for PC5300...it just seems to scale very well with voltage...at
least, until it dies. :)

Greg

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:53 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] Upgrade questions

Thanks Greg, initially I probablly wont overclock but I have overclocked
every system I have owned so I guess I will eventually.

I've seen a few mentions on the list of Gigabyte boards lately and was
going to look at them but I have had Asus for at least the last 8 years
and they haven't let me down yet so that was my preference. 

I was unaware that 2.2v was high for the the RAM, what is the standard
voltage for these chips?  

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:32 AM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] Upgrade questions

Are you looking to overclock? If so, take a look at 680i based boards,
such as the Gigabyte GA-N680SLI-DQ6. Absolutely wonderful board--I have
one--but they're about impossible to find right now. The first
production run sold out much faster than expected; stock isn't expected
to return for another couple weeks. I love the fact that it has 10
on-board SATA ports and the onboard sound has DTS Connect--I was able to
eliminate 3 expansion cards on those features alone.

The onboard passive cooling solution works pretty well, though I removed
all of it to cool with water.

I'd also strongly suggest looking for memory that doesn't require
2.2vdimm+ to meet rated speed. Almost all high-performance memory uses
Micron D9GMH ICs, and these do not seem to handle high voltages (2.2v+)
for long periods of time. Ideally, though, you would run a 1:1 FSB:MEM
ratio and undervolt the memory.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:53 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: [H] Upgrade questions

Hi,

I'm after some advice, upgrading my old Asus A7n8x deluxe and XP2100. So
far I'm sure I will go for:

PSU: Thermaltake W0116RU 750W
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817153038

RAM: Mushkin Redline 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820146114 (I like
Mushkin as they are based in Denver and I can just go to their office if
I have any issues).

CPU: E6600
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819115003



What I am unsure of is the motherboard, I want a feature filled board
similar to my A7n8X deluxe so I was looking at:

Asus P5B Deluxe
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131045

But there are some much more expensive boards that I can't really work
out what practical extras I'm getting, are they really better? One of
them is the Asus Striker board
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131074 it looks
very cool but does it cost so much more just because of the lights and
gimmicky things? Does that fancy cooling system really work or is it
just for show.

Money is not really a problem (for the first time ever)so I want to get
the best but I don't want to waste money.

All opinions are welcome.

Thanks

Gary




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