I'll take a look, thanks Chris. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:47 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] Upgrade questions

I'll throw out another recommend for a different 680i board (the
Gigabyte one is nice) most 680i boards though are using the Realtek HD,
which has DTS-Connect and DD-Live, so you're covered there.  I've become
pretty fond of the FoxConn entry.  the N68S7AA-8EKRS2H.  First, everyone
is so enamored with heat pipes, etc. but I've played with the Asus
Striker and P5N32-E and I just have not been impressed with how freaking
hot the chipsets get with their passive solution.  While it looks neat,
the longterm impact is poor, it just means you have to have incredible
ventilation in a case.  

The Foxconn solution is more old school, but it absolutely works.  The
heat scores on the northbridge and southbridge are INSANELY cooler then
on any of the others, and if you're going to do water cooling, the fact
that they use standard blocks means you aren't having to rip a board
apart, removing them to add Water cooling blocks is much easier.

The layout is clean, all aluminum capacitors is a plus, and for
overclockers, it OC's better then any board I've seen stable.  It's not
the most spendy, but it's a great bang for the buck.


CW

-----Original message-----
From: "Hunter, Gary" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:53:27 -0700
To: "The Hardware List" [email protected]
Subject: RE: [H] Upgrade questions

> Thanks Greg, initially I probablly wont overclock but I have 
> overclocked every system I have owned so I guess I will eventually.
> 
> I've seen a few mentions on the list of Gigabyte boards lately and was

> going to look at them but I have had Asus for at least the last 8 
> years and they haven't let me down yet so that was my preference.
> 
> I was unaware that 2.2v was high for the the RAM, what is the standard

> voltage for these chips?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:32 AM
> To: 'The Hardware List'
> Subject: RE: [H] Upgrade questions
> 
> Are you looking to overclock? If so, take a look at 680i based boards,

> such as the Gigabyte GA-N680SLI-DQ6. Absolutely wonderful board--I 
> have one--but they're about impossible to find right now. The first 
> production run sold out much faster than expected; stock isn't 
> expected to return for another couple weeks. I love the fact that it 
> has 10 on-board SATA ports and the onboard sound has DTS Connect--I 
> was able to eliminate 3 expansion cards on those features alone.
> 
> The onboard passive cooling solution works pretty well, though I 
> removed all of it to cool with water.
> 
> I'd also strongly suggest looking for memory that doesn't require 
> 2.2vdimm+ to meet rated speed. Almost all high-performance memory uses

> Micron D9GMH ICs, and these do not seem to handle high voltages 
> (2.2v+) for long periods of time. Ideally, though, you would run a 1:1

> FSB:MEM ratio and undervolt the memory.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:53 PM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: [H] Upgrade questions
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm after some advice, upgrading my old Asus A7n8x deluxe and XP2100. 
> So far I'm sure I will go for:
> 
> PSU: Thermaltake W0116RU 750W
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817153038
> 
> RAM: Mushkin Redline 2GB
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820146114 (I like

> Mushkin as they are based in Denver and I can just go to their office 
> if I have any issues).
> 
> CPU: E6600
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819115003
> 
> 
> 
> What I am unsure of is the motherboard, I want a feature filled board 
> similar to my A7n8X deluxe so I was looking at:
> 
> Asus P5B Deluxe
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131045
> 
> But there are some much more expensive boards that I can't really work

> out what practical extras I'm getting, are they really better? One of 
> them is the Asus Striker board
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131074 it 
> looks very cool but does it cost so much more just because of the 
> lights and gimmicky things? Does that fancy cooling system really work

> or is it just for show.
> 
> Money is not really a problem (for the first time ever)so I want to 
> get the best but I don't want to waste money.
> 
> All opinions are welcome.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> 
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