Greg,
Thanks for the new link.  I am an AS user.  Yes, it can be a pain to use
because of the formula changes in recent years.  Nice to know that we both
use ThermalRight HS's. Been with ThermalRight for years........ :)
Really nice coolers. Still ticking with mine.
Happy New Year!
Duncan

At 17:19 12/31/2007 -0600, you wrote:
> Updated cpu from a 6000 to a 6400x2
>
> With dnetc running cpu temps are tooooo high, (59c) Took off the
> factory paste and put my goop on, worse. (63c)
> Gives problems in games. Have never had trouble with dnetc b4 ever and
> have been constantly running it for years. grins I guess.

Make sure you're applying the paste properly. You should NEVER try to spread
the paste yourself with modern chips that have IHS. Depending on the CPU,
you should be using a dab or a line in the center. Assuming you're using
Arctic Silver, follow the directions at their site...they show the direction
to place beads that follow the size and orientation of the core.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm


>
> Suggestion for a better cooler then the stock amd cooler. FWIW with
> dnetc off cpu is 39c. Have been running with the side panel off for
> now. This is not a good time of year for temp problems.

I'm very fond of Thermalright's cooling solutions...
Ultra90 or Ultra120.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109126
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109125

with these fans, respectively:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835180051
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185006

Even something as basic as the Freezer 64 Pro would probably provide an
improvement (for a lot less $$$)...one poster states that it keeps his 6400+
X2 at 40c load, another hits 45c load.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185125

>
> Does the 6400 run that much hotter normally ? 6000 never gave me any
> grief.

They're both rated at 125W TDP, but 3.2GHz is a lot to ask from K8 on a 90nm
process. Unfortunately, AMD has yet to bring the 65nm "Brisbane" core to the
higher end SKUs.

>
> Do not want to remove the mb to mount a cooler
>

The best coolers require a different backplate for a reason. I think the
Freezer 64 will work with the stock retention mechanism.

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