ah, I wasn't aware that MPC-HC hooked into the UVD unit on the Radeon

What I said does stand with relation to CoreAVC though :)


-JB

On 15 Jun 2008, at 20:30, Hayes Elkins wrote:

Are you referring to the ATI post processing features? Because MPC- HC fully supports ATI hardware VC-1 and h264 decoding natively. For properly encoded 1080p media, the less post processing the better, IMO. Deinterlacing, noise reduction, and other UVD perks need not apply.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:23:17 +0100
Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in hardware, woot

Sorry Hayes but I've got to hugely disagree here, on the basis of a
Radeon's UVD beating the snot out of CoreAVC :) using apps like MPC-
HCE that bypass the frameworks that enable that seems hugely counter-
productive to me.


-JB
On 15 Jun 2008, at 20:12, Hayes Elkins wrote:

I suggest Media Player Classic - Home Cinema edition. It is a
project that supports hardware DXVA internally with no external
filters/codecs required at all. A new build is released every few
days because it is constantly tweaked. You can switch outputs from
overley, VMR7/9 (and renderless) plus a hack to use Vista's EVR in
XP. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123537

For the rare HD media you encounter out in the wild that wont play
nice with MPC-HC, I fall back on WMP 11 and use the codecs in "The
Codec" http://www.m5studio.pl/

"The Codec" 8.2 build 8 is simply the best and ONLY codec pack you
need for HD playback because it bundles the best software decoder
ever, CoreAVC v1.7 (which is commercial software somehow bundled
free).

CoreAVC w/ special new halaai splitter
CoreAAC
DivX
Xvid
AC3 filter

I still have issues now and then, but I'm in a LOT better shape
these days with MPC-HC and the alternative WMP11 w/ The Codec Pack,
a year ago I was pulling my hair out with the musical chairs these
bastard codec gremlins had me play.

VLC is utter crap.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:32:07 -0700
Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV
containers in hardware, woot

I myself use Simple Media Player or Media Player Classic. I also
use FFDSHOW
Codex as well.

Simple Media Player and Codex at http://smplayer.sf.net

Media Player Classic can be found at
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303

FFDShow can be found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/

Good luck,

Tim "The Beave" Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV
containers in
hardware, woot

I decided to give this a try with the same video. VLC does choke,
although I am only using less then 20 percent CPU when it chokes.

How did you get PowerDVD 8 to play the mkv file? It won't play if for
me. I have the same codecs installed, and I have plenty of hardware
muscle to do this. PowerDVD ignores the file.




At 06:49 AM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
Just a little success story here, I sourced a cheap Dell for a
client
(seriously good deal IMO, £291 for a Vostro 400 w/ 2.4Ghz Allendale,
3GB of ram, Terabyte of disk, wireless, Vista Home Premium, set of
speakers with a sub, a wireless router, a surge protected
plugboard.)
and dropped a 3870 into it, as it's going to be used in a sort of
media center'ish sort of way plugged into a 32" high def TV

Installed the CCCP codec pack (unchecking use ffmpeg for x264),
installed PowerDVD 8, turned on hardware acceleration within
PowerDVD... fired up a 7GB/hr h264 video (It's the Top Gear Polar
Special in 1080P), which historically completely slaughters
machines,
VLC on the 4Ghz Wolfdale sits at 67% cpu utilisation with it (which
means a 2.4Ghz chip with 1/3rd the cache has no chance in hell of
playing it smoothly)

on the 2.4Ghz Allendale...

13% cpu utilization

THIRTEEN PERCENT, good grief, that's probably just the storm of
interrupts from shuffling the data over the network and to the
GPU, wow.

the ease at which this was accomplished is making a Sempron or low
end
A64 X2 on a 780G (which has the same video decoder core of course)
really really tempting for a media center box.... to replace the
makeshift E6600/i680/7800GT box I've got performing those duties now (with CoreAVC on decoding duty, which is much faster for h264 decode
than VLC just for the record.)


I'm mainly amazed at how easy it was to get it to work :)

So, yeah, groooooooovy :)

-JB





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