Stan,
You have not reason to apologize. Really!
I recall your focus. And, I like your focus. I read. I decide. I do.
I have been an nVidia fan for years, but, I have lost focus. Obviosly!
New stuff to learn.
No harm. No foul.
The new toy is now up and running w2k. I will probably snag your suggestion
just for a start. If nothing else, the card will become my "when all else
fails this video card works!" At least it will be some generations above
my old Matrox cards! LOL!
I have zero experience with anything newer that a PCI or AGP slot! Yes,
painful, but true!
But, the damn new machine is running well with a PCI Matrox G200! Damn!
Best,
Duncan
At 17:44 11/19/2008 -0600, you wrote:
Sorry I went off on a tangent, I just meant to say that nVidia makes fine
video cards as well as AMD.
DHSinclair wrote:
Stan,
I do so get your focus. But, I have moved to Intel C2D, right or wrong
for my updates/upgrades. I will just have to deal with stuff I miss
because of this decision. ATM, Intel represents a larger choice than AMD
does. Yes, I do so want AMD to keep on trucking! Intel needs all the
competition they can get. I have zero bad comments about any AMD cpu I
have ever used in the last 10 years. I still use two of them ATM, and
both run just like torpedoes; hot-straight-normal ('hot' being a relative
term, LOL!).
It is still all good right now. I will look at the ATI video cards in any
case.
Best,
Duncan
At 16:38 11/19/2008 -0600, you wrote:
I agree that either companies products would be fine. Personally
speaking, I've upgraded my gaming box from an AMD 3850 to their current
4850 using Catalyst drivers going way back with zero issues. In December
AMD is introducing a fascinating new mainstream feature called, "Stream
computing" in version 8.12 which more or less turns your video card
somewhat into a parallel processing super computer. That MSI card only
has 80 streaming processors but is still (at least for some apps)
considerably more powerful than your core 2 duo. nVidia also does this
with CUDA and it should be interesting to see where this leads in the
months and years ahead. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is one stream computing app I've
been using for many months now and its way more powerful than the CPU
version. Good Luck!
DHSinclair wrote:
j.,
Yes, thank you. I do understand. I do know that I will be doing your
'It's simple' kind of test. I do have to test the waters and form my
own opinion. Yes, most is truly better than my very old Matrox cards.
I do accept this. I do know their limitations. But, in a pinch, they
still light up and allow most basic setup functions (which is what I
use them for). I do not have any new technology spares lying around
anymore. I am now brand new to the new PCI interfaces.
Ouch! New lump on head!!!!!! LOL!
Best,
Duncan
At 11:48 11/19/2008 -0800, you wrote:
Mis-quotes of how bad ATI's driver issues are starting to wear thin.
Both companies have issues that arise, generally with AGP video
support or specific games, then maybe something else like general stability.
The driver package is the same for the entire product line, true also
with Nvidia.
It's simple: You buy, try, scrutinize, & return within 30 days if
there's trouble. Anything has to be better than old Matrox cards, as
good as they were in their day and at $30 it could cost a lot more to try.
DHSinclair wrote:
Stan,
Well, yes and no. Yes, I have a new/replacement PC built; a
C2D/P45/DDR3 that is just missing a video card. I do have 3 PCI
cards that I can try, but I have to take another PC down to try. ATM,
my spare G200-PCI may be bad. I will confirm this tonight.
And, no, you missed nothing. I did appreciate the suggestion and the
link to the Anandtech review. I may have to re-read the review.
Perhaps I missed something. I just was not impressed with the video
card's power usage, resources, and the driver (ATI) issues.
However, as a first time try with a PCI-e card, the price and
features are appealing.
I have listened to the collective banter ATI vs. nVidia through the
last 3 series of video cards. Sorry, I remain hopelessly confused
still. And, now I have to learn/deal with a brand new card interface also.
My apologies.
Best,
Duncan
At 16:55 11/18/2008 -0600, you wrote:
quote: But, I have this brandy, spanking, new set of toys that need
a video card just to see if it even works...... :)
Did I misunderstand something?
DHSinclair wrote:
J/Stan,
Hey! Hey! It is a Guinea Pig; not a hamster. Yes, I may be 1 or 2
generations behind. I use AMD Barton 2500+'s, an AMD TBird 1400M,
and some Intel P3's. Most of my video cards are nVidia GeForce 4's
or nVidia FX5500's. Yes, not top drawer, but it all seems to do OK
for my needs. I am not into PC-based HD video. I do not even own a
wide-screen flat panel monitor yet. Sheesh!
Perhaps it is time to banish myself from this collective! LOL!
I did read the Anandtech review of the card Stan suggested. While
it does seem to work OK, it does seem to have several power and
resource negatives. They also mentioned driver problems with this
card also. I have not been an ATI user either. The only ATI video
anything I have is the on-board 3D Rage IIC PCI chip in the
server-works Intel m/b.
And, it is beginning to show signs of serious age and some video
degradation. (This is why I still hoard old PCI Matrox cards)! But,
the server is not the issue at hand. I am looking for mid-level
PCI-X cards now.
When I rebuild my gaming machine, we will talk top drawer cards!
Thank you for the suggestion. I will re-read the review. Perhaps I
am just too new to this new video revolution.
Best,
Duncan
At 01:44 11/18/2008 -0800, you wrote:
Given what he's been running on, I'm sure a hamster on a wheel is
faster! ;)
A review on Anandtech for it:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3444
Stan Zaske wrote:
Duncan just wanted to have a video card that was competent for
web based video and this card is obviously overkill for that but
the price is very reasonable. It should even be powerful enough
for some casual gaming at low resolutions.
maccrawj wrote:
Gotta love how Newegg's specs are always flat out wrong or have
the wrong definition.
The GPU is HD4350 but that's the card model, not the actual
GPU's model, LOL!
For accelerated video, you're probably write but I'd be suspect
just based on how low the price is.
