I think Android has the potential to be the phone/UI we want, but it's
going to be a few years of iterations to get there.
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Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation
On 2009-09-16, at 5:21 PM, "Mesdaq, Ali" <ames...@websense.com> wrote:
Yeah I agree with you on that and that’s why I haven’t really
upgraded my phone for so long. Now that the iphone has set such a hi
gh standard I require the phone to be as user friendly as the iphone
and hardware as good. My basic requirements are
- UI as good as iphone
- hardware as good or better than iphone
- no limitations or little limitations on what I can do on the phone
If iphone was a little more open in that regard there would be no
phone that can compare.
AT&T has kinda been screwed by the iphone because users are
demanding bandwidth but not willing to pay for it. So its been kind
of a double edged sword for them. But lets make a clear distinction
between AT&T mandated controls and Apple controls. Apple wants to
control your life and I just want a phone that can do a bunch of
things.
Thanks,
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Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM)
Sr. Security Researcher
Websense Security Labs
http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:48 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone?
Well, that's a bit over the top. As much as I don't like it, it's not
unreasonable for AT&T to not allow an app that destroys its business
model
on a device that it controls.
I still haven't seen a single phone out there with an interface,
software,
and UI that can compare to the iPhone. So I'm willing to put up
with a few
minor issues in exchange for that.
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Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org>
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Mesdaq, Ali <ames...@websense.com>
wrote:
Precisely the reason why I haven’t gotten an iphone. I hate the li
mitations
and the hoops you have to jump through to do some basic things.
Thanks,
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Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM)
Sr. Security Researcher
Websense Security Labs
http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:
hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:25 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone?
Unless your device isn't allowed to have such pieces of software,
like the
iPhone.
Which is why my iPhone is *cough* modified *cough*.
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Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org>
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mesdaq, Ali <ames...@websense.com>
wrote:
That’s not a limitation of this nokia. Anyone could write a SIP
application
in fact someone wrote something for Google voice already
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/dialcentral/
Thanks,
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Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM)
Sr. Security Researcher
Websense Security Labs
http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:
hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Robert Martin Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:00 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone?
I like Nokia and have an N81. What I don't like is that Nokia has
been
pressured by mobile carriers to remove the built-in SIP support on
all
the
newer models. When I walk in at home or at work my N81 auto sychs
up with
my
asterisk server via wireless, and I can make totally free
unlimited calls
using google voice anywhere in the continental U.S. The phone
becomes an
extension to the system whenever internet connectivity is available.
We got off monthly mobile plan to pay-per-minutes since we can
still use
the nokia phones through WiFi. Now I pay about $8 a month for my
cellular
service :)
lopaka
--- On Wed, 9/16/09, Mesdaq, Ali <ames...@websense.com> wrote:
From: Mesdaq, Ali <ames...@websense.com>
Subject: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone?
To: "hardware@hardwaregroup.com" <hardware@hardwaregroup.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:03 AM
Has anyone seen the N9000 phone? I just read some reviews, specs,
developer
docs, and saw some videos on this phone and it seems amazing!
Anyone have
access to this phone or know of anyone with one? Seems like it's not
released yet but usually phones find their way to the market
early. In
case
you haven’t seen the phone here are some links
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/hands-on-nokia-n900-review-631040
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP5R-5NX1BE
Quick highlights for me personally are
- Debian based linux OS
- Updates to everything over the air
- Killer UI
- Full flash support in a full Mozilla based browser
- Very nice hardware specs in every facet i.e. camera, storage,
processor,
screen, graphics hardware accelerator, etc
- Real multi tasking OS and interface
- Get root shell on the device
All in all this device seems to be created as a mobile computer
because
of
Maemo's roots as a tablet PC OS. So the phone is just treated as a
platform
and hardware to run the OS. For example you can just not use the
phone at
all and make all your calls via Skype over Wifi or 3g
connectivity. Looks
like finally a no strings attached phone.
Thanks,
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Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM)
Sr. Security Researcher
Websense Security Labs
http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com
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