Rick,
That is a good point, but you focus on "swap files." Think this is a bad
focus.
Yes, RAM is relatively cheap now. Way back when not so.
Yes, hard drives are still relatively cheap now. (I think.)
Way back when I still recall all the list traffic about who's using
who's HD..... :)
The "swap file" issue is just how MS decided to deal with all the
possible combination's of RAM vs. HD that all of us really used. Well,
and their own bogus programming too!
A simple way to market their product to the masses (us).
The "wise guys" learned how to park the "swap file" somewhere other than
C:. Too bad M$ does not give us a choice where the "Windows" swap file
lives....... :(
I have thought about moving my "swap file(s)" for that past 10yrs. I
have not yet moved one of them!
Perhaps I will if/when I dabble with Win7...... :)
Duncan
On 01/13/2010 19:30, Rick Glazier wrote:
Maybe one old idea we need to keep is that hard drives are for storage.
Swap files are for when RAM was expensive.
My latest box could have 16G of RAM. (Not in my lifetime.)
RAM is cheaper and last longer than an SSD.
That is all we are saying.
Rick Glazier
----- Original Message ----- From: "Winterlight"
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [H] SSD question
The real problem is with the concept of a swap file. Ram is cheap
enough to have all you could need.
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Brian
maybe, but there are some apps that won't run well without the swap
file... like Acrobat PRO. And while I noticed a big difference in XP
PRO when disabling the swap file in favor of RAM; I have noticed no
such performance difference in Vista 64, or 7 64 ,so I let windows put
the swap file on my Velociraptor, and keep the RAM for other things.
And I stick by the idea that most users are putting the OS on their
SSD drives and I bet the average user is not turning off swap
files.... surly the manufactures of SSDs would be aware of this.
If there is that much of an issue with writes on a SSD then it isn't
really a hard drive, and it isn't ready for my dollars.
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-01-13, at 6:25 PM, Winterlight <[email protected]>
wrote:
That doesn't make sense. First these are hard drives... not flash
drives. Limit writes??... what kind of hard drive is that. People
typically put their OS on these and pagefile.sys defaults to the C
drive.
At 02:28 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:
Bad idea, you want to LIMIT writes to those,
but if you could afford to wear it out, go for it.
It would be faster than a SwapFile on an HD.
Intel has a white paper on this IIRC.
(I don't have any but might have stored the whitepaper.)
Rick Glazier
----- Original Message ----- From: "Winterlight"
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:32 PM
Subject: [H] SSD question
I don't want to pop for a larger SSD right now, but I am thinking
of getting a 30GB OCZ just to try out, maybe use it for video
editing, game install. I am wondering how well this might work out
for a pagefile.sys file? How close is it to RAM speeds?
