And ATI drivers frequently don't install properly, can cause bluescreens
when connecting/disconnecting a DP monitor, are extraordinarily flakey
coming back to the console after an RDP session, abandon older GPUs more
aggressively than nvidia, etc. Neither manufacturers are releasing high
quality drivers right now as far as I'm concerned.

All that said, I have a 5770 and would buy an ATI/AMD GPU today if I needed
one. Tomorrow, who knows--I have zero allegiance when it comes to GPUs and
have positive and negative thoughts and experiences with recent products and
drivers from both camps.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:hardware-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:30 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [H] come on guys
> 
> Google nvidia black crush.  Some people don't notice. I guess for games
not
> as bad.  For watching bluray totally unacceptable.  That and nvidia still
doesn't
> pass dts-ma and dd-hd tracks in bitstream and everyone else does.
> 
> Sent via BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Gary" <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 11:16:33
> To: <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [H] come on guys
> 
> I am using HDMI. Never heard of black crush.......driver works until I try
> games.......freezes and recovers...........over and over. Did same with
all
> driver versions.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:hardware-
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
> > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:08 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [H] come on guys
> >
> > Really?  Even with their recent 'your card destroyed driver recall'.
> > Or
> if your
> > going out to hdmi the crazy black crush issue?   Or failure at 24p?
> >
> > Sent via BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bryan Seitz <[email protected]>
> > Sender: [email protected]
> > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:55:03
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [H] come on guys
> >
> > Although ATI wins the speed game, nvidia still wins the driver game
> > IMO :)
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 10:51:53AM -0500, Gary wrote:
> > > My 5770 sucks.........constantly "display driver has stop working"
> > > (10.7)......will not run SC2.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:hardware-
> > > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:39 AM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [H] come on guys
> > > >
> > > > Core i7-875k is best bang for the buck. Its half the cost of the
> > > > 870,
> just
> > > as fast
> > > > and unlocked. Win-win-win
> > > >
> > > > Nvidia to me has really f'd up the last two generations in the value
> > > > department.   An ati 5770 or better will handle anything you throw
at
> it
> > > >
> > > > Ssd's are now cheap enough that you can get an intel 80gb for a
> > > > boot
> > drive
> > > > and then grab a 2tb or so data drive.  I just grabbed a 2tb over
> > > > the
> > > weekend
> > > > for $99. That's the solution.
> > > >
> > > > If your going the otherway, or you want a cheap mediacenter, i3 is
> good,
> > > amd
> > > > makes a solid board/chip combo for a basic mce.
> > > >
> > > > It all boils down to what kind of budget you have
> > > >
> > > > Sent via BlackBerry
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: "Anthony A Riederer" <[email protected]>
> > > > Sender: [email protected]
> > > > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 08:49:16
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: [H] come on guys
> > > >
> > > > Where are all the opinions. I posted a message last week looking
> > > > for
> > some
> > > > recommendations on an upgrade path. So far I have gotten 1
> > > > response. I value your suggestions. I need ideas.
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> >
> > --
> >
> > Bryan G. Seitz


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