My device is currently running 4.4.2. I agree that it has gotten better, no doubt due to both faster gear and OS tweaks, but it's nowhere in the same league as IOS or WP even on lesser hardware. It's probably a minor thing to a lot of people, but it just irritates the crap out of me.
I had an Android (Honeycomb, later upgraded to ICS) tablet at the same time that I had an Android 2.x phone (the S1). Once I upgraded to the S3, I essentially stopped using the tablet. I later bought a very nice Thinkpad Win8.1 tablet. I don't use it much either, but that's largely because scaling in a lot of Win32 apps blows. Phones have reached a point in speed and display size that I just don't have much need personally for a tablet anymore, and if I end up getting a phablet, that will be even more true. A friend of mine (an iSheeple in denial) has purchased every iPad (and iPhone) Apple has released, and recently admitted that his iPhone 6 Plus has largely supplanted the tablet--a statement I made over 2 years ago after getting the S3. (Welcome to 2012, indeed.) Yes, carriers are a non-trivial part of the problem, but the carriers can only work with what the device manufacturers provide. Just recently, Sony announced that they would no longer be providing updates for a number of their Android phones, including some models that were still being sold earlier this year. I guess I consider that pretty inexcusable. It's a problem Google could and should address, but they seem too afraid to leverage the Play store (since Android is OSS, it's about the only thing they could do) to beat device manufacturers and carriers into submission. -----Original Message----- From: Hardware [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joshua MacCraw Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 5:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [H] Phones, OSes, etc... was Re: Windows 8.1 problem What version of Android Greg? Known issues with past versions as Google tweaks what threads handle what in an attempt to deal with GUI responsiveness complaints. Kitkat on the Nexus 7 FHD is very responsive vs. any 2.x versions I run on my HTC DesireHD which lags bad. Though I'd lay the blame of (most of) my phone lag on idiot assumption we all have cell data serivces vs. WIFI only (I have data block & no forced data plan 4+ years now), so at wake up it's a bums rush of data consuming processes vying to suck network pipe. My answer is simple for cell: tablet is better device for computing freeing me from the phone wars to simply buy a good cell phone for PHONE CALLS, gasp!. Not wanting to deal with anything but official Android updates and lack there of is certainly limiting but blame the *carriers* for that one because they sit on updates. For those of us willing to try or tweak our own it's much more rewarding & flexible. There is ALWAYS room for more HARDWARE choices IMHO, hardware that can run various OS' available. OS wise moving away from Windows & iOS is priority (and Android as Google moves to emulating MS/Apple) in favor of a total OSS OS. That's why I mentioned the Ubuntu phone as a great idea same for moving the PC world away from OSX/Windows. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Greg Sevart <[email protected]> wrote: > My primary phone is an Android, and in a general sense I do like the device. > Having established that, there are major problems with Android. First, its > interface isn't responsive. Even with the fastest quad core processors, > Android just isn't nearly as responsive as either IOS or WP. The device isn't > slow, as pure benchmarks prove, but interacting with the system and apps is > nowhere near as fluid. I can't tell you how many times I've gone to interact > with a UI element only to have it change a faction of a second before my > finger touches the screen, resulting in it doing something I didn't want. My > experience with IOS and WP, even on far less capable devices, has been far > superior in this regard. > > Updates for any device not running pure Android are a disaster. I'm forced to > choose to either run a custom/3rd party image (which I don't want to mess > with), or wait months, or longer, for updates to functional and security > issues--if I get them at all. Is it the fault of Android? Yes and no. > Ultimately it is the manufacturers at fault, but Google could and should have > done more to prevent it from occurring. > > As I said, my main device is an Android. My next device will almost certainly > be one as well, but it's more a lack of options. I dislike Apple's offerings > for reason I won't enumerate here, and I have a small set of indispensable > apps that aren't available on WP. Until that changes, I feel like I'm stuck. > > More generally, I think there's a place for all of them. None of them are > perfect, a condition that will likely never exist, so I'm glad that there are > choices to allow people to select the best device for their needs as well as > continue to push the envelope with each generation. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hardware [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Thane Sherrington > Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 9:18 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [H] Windows 8.1 problem > > At 01:00 AM 06/10/2014, Joshua MacCraw wrote: >>Boo hoo so Android isn't iOS or Windows simple & polished but it's a >>hell of a lot more open & customizable with stock (or branded) >>interface replaceable so you have options. Hell I'd jump to an Ubuntu >>phone before I do a windows phone. > > Actually, I've heard the Windows Phone interface is pretty good, and I'd be > willing to try it. The big mistake was to put a phone interface on a desktop. > > T > > > > >
