This is why I got a motherboard with 8 onboard SATA ports & 1 NVMe port.  I
run everything in storage spaces, hardware agnostic.

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 2:18 PM Greg Sevart <ad...@xfury.net> wrote:

> Well, most of the time these cards are connected to SAS backplanes with a
> SFF-8087 to SFF-8087 cable. The consumer user case of directly connecting
> to
> disks (SATA at that) is less common. Not uncommon, but less. :)
>
> Agreed on the potential for having a lot of extra cables, but for me, it's
> worth it to bypass the crap cheap consumer SATA HBAs that never work
> completely right. I don't run a lot of JBOD anymore, but the systems that
> do
> are using 9211s or its successors--usually alongside SAS expanders.
>
> One final point - this card can run in RAID mode or IT (Initiator/Target)
> mode. If it comes in RAID mode, you may need to switch it to IT mode. There
> are a number of guides out there, but this one looks quite decent:
> https://nguvu.org/freenas/Convert-LSI-HBA-card-to-IT-mode/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf
> Of Winterlight
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 12:55 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] PCIe controller
>
>
> yeah, I figured that out after I ordered it. I am surprised they don't
> include that with the product. What I don't like is you end up with a lot
> of
> unused cables in your case.. I will have to think about it.
>
>
> At 11:44 AM 11/15/2019, you wrote:
> >The card itself does not have any "SATA" ports. It uses a multi-lane
> >mini-SAS connector - SFF-8087. You will need one or more SFF-8087 to
> >SATA breakout cables (4 ports each) to attach disks, which is the 2nd
> link.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On
> >Behalf Of Winterlight
> >Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 12:18 PM
> >To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> >Subject: Re: [H] PCIe controller
> >
> >
> >I ordered the controller but I just realized that the other link is a
> >breakout cable? and not a SATA to  Esata.. is this required or just to
> >increase from 4 to 8 ports?
> >
> >At 06:31 AM 11/15/2019, you wrote:
> > >LSI (then Avago, and now Broadcom) makes good stuff, but it's
> > >generally server grade.
> > >
> > >If you're just connecting SATA disks, I would actually suggest an
> > >LSI/Avago/Broadcom SAS card. Something like the 9211-8i in
> > >Initiator/Target
> > >(IT) mode would let you directly attach 8 more disks, either SATA or
> > >SAS. No eSATA though, so if that's a requirement, you'd need to use
> > >your onboard ports for that. You would need SFF-8087 to SATA forward
> > >breakout cables as well, but those are cheap.
> > >
> > >https://amzn.com/B002RL8I7M
> > >https://amzn.com/B012BPLYJC
> > >
> > >Do beware that, depending on your system, it could add time to your
> > >POST, and add-in I/O controllers across the board are notorious for
> > >having power-saving issues--specifically, waking from sleep/hibernate.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On
> > >Behalf Of Winterlight
> > >Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 9:53 PM
> > >To: Hardware Group <hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com>
> > >Subject: [H] PCIe controller
> > >
> > >I am looking to buy a quality  PCIe sata controller. I am not going
> > >to setup RAID so just 6 Gbps is fine. What I am looking for is solid
> > >reliability and Windows 10 compatibility. at lest 4 ports. I have
> > >tried the cheap ones like SYBA  and others and they never work that
> > >well or very reliably. The one I have now hangs at post if anything
> > >is plugged into the Esata port. Istarted looking for a PROMISE but
> > >can't find anything that isn't  designed for a server. I see a brand
> > >called LSI but I am not familiar with it ? Any sugestions?
>
>
>
>

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