Duncan,

I've been thinking about your problem and have been trying to understand why you would be having so much trouble deleting a file.

When I thought about your problem one of the first things you said was that you were unable to change the "read" attribute.
This suggests to me that perhaps you have a Permissions problem.

If so, Take Ownership of the file as follows -
Right click on the 'flash6.ocx' file and then select Properties|Security|Advanced|Owner
Then Take Ownership of the file by adding yourself as the owner.
Hopefully, you should now be able to delete the file.

If the above doesn't work it's because you're in good company.
Well, it seems that 'flash6.ocx' is particularly troublesome, and it seems you're not the only one having problems with this file.. I did a quick google: http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=%27flash6.ocx%27&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGHP_enUS429US429&ie=UTF-8 and many entries were returned.

I would review the first entry returned for some ideas: http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/1190574869

One more thought.
There is a freeware utility called <http://download.cnet.com/FileAssassin/3000-2094_4-10639988.html>FileAssassin that purports to be able to delete any file. You can download <http://download.cnet.com/FileAssassin/3000-2094_4-10639988.html>FileAssassin from CNET as well as many other places.

Hang in there and keep fighting the good fight.

Regards,
-Mike






At 09:26 PM 6/10/2011, DSinc wrote:
Mike/Richard/FORC5,

Mike: Thanks for the video link. NOW I understand what FORC5 said.
Watched video a number of times and wrote a crib sheet. Tried it
carefully. Nada.
All I get to the DELete cmd is 'Access Denied.'
Yes, I can accept a rootkit infected machine ATM. Truly, for the life of me,
I do not know where 'Flash6.ocx' came from.
Do understand the List aversion to all things "Flash."
This client never did anything video related that would require Adobe Flash.
It never even had the Adobe Reader loaded......... :)

FORC5: Even the ATTRIB cmd could not reset the Archive and ReadOnly
attributes of the file. Surprised I was!

I am not deterred yet. I have a question about the video's opening statement,
'Shutdown/off all applications.'  Does this mean everything running in the
System tray?
Some I can defeat. Some I can not; like MSSEv2 and APCv3, without a complete
un-install. Neither one has a 'Sleep' or 'Stop' switch. So I tried with them still active. I tried anyway expecting less than stellar results. I am OK in setback!
Tomorrow, I will try this again from the Safe Mode and see what shakes out.

Richard: Thanks for the link to Ubuntu 1104. Have it. Also have the suggested
burner proggy InfraRecorder. IR was gracious to load, run, and tell me it would love to write the Ubuntu.iso,...............except that my r/w CD was only 650MB.
LOL! Only about 52MB shy of a test of Ubuntu!
Stupid I feel now. (Another trip to the office creapo store for modern DVD blanks!)
This game is now in active reserve.

Found my now very old BartPE CD. Something else to try also.

Thanks all. This silly trouble is actually fun. Worst case, I reformat and begin again. This XPpro Client is not critical. It is another learning tool now. This XP install has
had its' share of odd behavior since birth (02/2010).

I do so appreciate the help/shares.
Duncan


On 06/10/2011 02:36, Michael Resnick wrote:
Duncan,

If you're still running into trouble deleting the undeleatble, then take a gander at these youtube videos that run you through the process step by step.
It's seems a lot more uncomplicated once you can see how it's done.

Youtube video: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye4I8AIRadc>Delete Undeletable<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye4I8AIRadc> File in XP

Regards,
-Mike



At 09:02 PM 6/9/2011, DSinc wrote:
FORC5,
Know you know. I don't understand your steps.
Too far under-the-hood!
Have a plan; doing it now. Will get back with results.
Duncan


On 06/09/2011 20:19, FORC5 wrote:
May be possible to delete file, open a cmd window, task manager. turn off explorer. desktop does away. use command prompt to find the file and use delete or chance attrib and delete. works sometimes.
fp

At 04:43 PM 6/9/2011, DSinc Poked the stick with:
Mike,
I've printed your share also.
Yes, still a bit *nix adverse, but I've spent the afternoon getting Richard's share. Big sucker!
I will play with it tonight. I have the bits and pieces corralled.
Or, I'll go get your share. Just half to try the Ubuntu route once.
For ONE stinking file that I don't like. BUT I can not make it just go away
with normal magic. Odd.
I think I begin to understand the List focus of "NO Flash!" now. LOL!
It is a local irritation ATM;...... :)
I will get your suggestions in due time.
Thank you.
Duncan


On 06/09/2011 18:26, Michael Resnick wrote:
Duncan,

If you're really, really, really averse to <http://www.ubuntu.com/>Ubuntu and *nix then consider the <http://www.ubcd4win.com/>Ultimate Boot CD for Windows.
It is a freeware utility and works wonders.
It will provide a familiar windows environment to explore, diagnose, and fix many problems.
You can download it <http://www.ubcd4win.com/downloads.htm>here.
<http://www.ubcd4win.com/contents.htm>Here is a description of the many utilities (including multiple file explorers) on the CD.
You will still have to download and burn the CD before use.
Poke around and see if you like it.

When you get a chance you might want to follow up on Rick's suggestion of <http://www.ubuntu.com/>Ubuntu. It's pretty user friendly, has a GUI interface and doesn't take long to get used to.
FWIW I am not a *nix person either.

Regards,
-Mike





At 05:42 PM 6/9/2011, DSinc wrote:
TNX Richard.
I know zip of *nix. Have no cds of it either.
Shame on me.
Darn,
Duncan


On 06/09/2011 17:39, Richard Quilhot wrote:
use a ubuntu/linux cd to boot&  remove the file.

Rick Q
[email protected]




On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 5:32 PM, DSinc<[email protected]>  wrote:

I have a WinXPproSP3 machine that has
c:\windows\sys32\macromed\flash\Flash6.ocx
in its file structure.
Most odd.
This machine runs MSSE v2 and is fully patched via auto-update.
It does not run 24/7 (as many of my clients do). I use it as my
forward test platform for 'normal human PC usage.'
I figure that it gets what it needs from MS when I spin it up.
Correct?
It has never made a peep until now while using Secunia PSI.
Secunia gave up and could do no upgrade to this file.
Fine.
This machine has never needed, or been allowed to load/run
Adobe Flash. 3 days of research netted 3 old removal trys. All failed.

The file remains chronically 'read-only.' My desktop creds, the
admin desktop creds, Safe Mode boot, ?, nothing allows
resetting the 'read-only' flag of this file.
Suspect deeper baddie. Fine.
Who? What?

Best I have done is rename the file to 'Flash6.$$$.'
Still can not delete it.

If I had DOS, I think I might be able to drill down and kill this
file. I have DOS, but no way to load it. PC has no floppy drive.
And, my usb floppy drive is not a bootable object.

I do have a bootable (old) CD with (?) WinPE 6. Think this gives
me a virtual ram-based windows playground. Can this approach
allow me to delete/remove the offending file?

Yes, understand that there may be further digging, or, give up and
format to a new OS install. Fine. This is NOT a critical client. ATM, it is
a personal learning tool.
Best,
Duncan

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