Well in my case, the problem is right now I'm running Win 7 on my media storage server and AFAIK it doesn't support sharing drives under NFS. I'm using Win7 because that same machine also does duty as the HTPC for the downstairs and the encoding/streaming/rip box. Yes, I know I can do all those great things with some flavor of Linux/Unix, but it is just easier under Windows.
At some point soon I'm planning on re-doing my server box and am considering making it a dedicated file/media server, and having the HTPC as a separate box. Then I will be probably do everything with NFS. --- Brian On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin <[email protected]>wrote: > yep. Kinda sad for SMB, though. Why not go NFS? 300% is pretty serious. > > > On 6/13/2011 8:59 AM, Brian Weeden wrote: > >> A lot depends on the protocol. Check out the stats posted in the most >> recent Amazon review for this Netgear powerline adapter: >> >> >> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DVEW8I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER >> >> Quite a huge difference between file transfers using SMB and NFS. It is >> really making me consider going with NFS when I rebuild my media server. >> >> >> --- >> Brian >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Anthony Q. Martin<[email protected] >> >wrote: >> >> I'm currently copying a 13GB recording of Dancing with the Stars that I >>> grabbed off of my TIVO. I'm just doing a file copy in windows, mind you, >>> from my PC upstairs to my laptop downstairs. The laptop is on the >>> powerline >>> network. >>> >>> I'm getting a sustained 5.67 MB/s...roughly 45 Mbps file copy. >>> >>> I believe that most HD streaming can be done with that >>> bandwidth....anyone >>> know for sure? I'm not sure that HD streaming is the same as a simple >>> file >>> copy, also. >>> >>> >>> On 6/13/2011 7:56 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: >>> >>> Simple. Use a port of the back of your router...cable from there to an >>>> adapter...plug into a power socket...now your network is put into the >>>> power >>>> lines in your house...then plug another adapter near the location where >>>> you >>>> need Ethernet connectivity...then use a cable from that adapter to your >>>> device. Bingo. >>>> >>>> The netgear AV kit i mentioned gives you a little box that has 4 ports >>>> on >>>> the back...so, with that, you can connect upto four devices on that one >>>> line...so you are in effect sharing that pipe...not a problem in a >>>> living >>>> room as you typically only use one or two devices at a time. WD kits are >>>> a >>>> bit different in terms of how they make the adapters and port >>>> arrangements, >>>> but they work the same way. Since they devices are Homeplug compatible >>>> (the >>>> homeplug spec), you can use them together. So right now, I have a >>>> netgear AV >>>> kit (with the 4-port in downstairs at the other end of the house). And >>>> I'm >>>> using one adapter from the WD kit upstairs in another room. I just plug >>>> the >>>> adapter into a power socket and plug an Ethernet cable into the device >>>> and >>>> am good to go. >>>> >>>> All of your wireless stuff exists outside of this...this is just an >>>> extension of your Ethernet over the powerlines inside your house. Dirt >>>> simple. >>>> >>>> The gotchas are 1) you probably wont' get the speed ratings listed on >>>> the >>>> box. But as others has said, if your house wiring is ok you can stream >>>> 1080p. 2) It is possible that other devices that hook into your power >>>> system >>>> could spew crap onto your powerlines and thus ruin your data rates. I >>>> have >>>> not noticed this in my house, but it might be possible. 3) your house >>>> might >>>> have crappy powerlines...or things on different circuits that so that >>>> there >>>> isn't a good signal path between your sockets, so you might have to >>>> experiment with which sockets you use. Also, the instructions all say >>>> never >>>> to plug the adapter into a powerstrip or surge protector. I have ignore >>>> that and have always found it to work. Oh, one more advantage of >>>> powerline >>>> is that it is travel friendly...when I go to my mom's house I take my WD >>>> powerline kit because her wireless wont reach from front to back of her >>>> house. Powerline solves this instantly and they don't even know I >>>> plugged it >>>> in. >>>> >>>> The netgear and WD kits I have now claim 200 Mbps, but I think those are >>>> bi-directional rates, so expect 100 Mbps (max) one way. That's like 12 >>>> MB/s. So, in terms of bytes, expect that to be best case, ideal world >>>> performance. If you can get 4 or 5 MB/s, then you should be good. The >>>> main >>>> advantage over wireless is that once you determine that this system >>>> works in >>>> your house, you get consistent performance...no drop outs, no weather >>>> related slow downs, no competition from neighbors, etc. >>>> >>>> I just ordered netgear's 500 Mbps kit. I want it has fast as possible >>>> because that is shared bandwidth to that box...and I might later want to >>>> add >>>> a new receiver with networking features and Google TV is supposed to >>>> upgrade >>>> to Honeycomb this summer, so I want all the goodness I can get. So, one >>>> I >>>> get this, I'll test it out hard...they have 30-day return with a restock >>>> fee, so if I see no speed increase I will send it back. I think paying >>>> the >>>> restock fee is worth it. >>>> >>>> BTW, downstairs I have Tivo, two Blu-ray players, and google TV all >>>> connected up with the AV kit. It's a good think my TV down there >>>> doesn't do >>>> internet, or I'd have to get some other port. Of course, I don't really >>>> need >>>> all that, as a lot of functionality is duplicated (how many different >>>> ways >>>> can you watch netflix???). >>>> >>>> Aside: BTW, how many different ways can list members stream netflix? >>>> Anyone ever done a count like that? >>>> >>>> Anyway, you can read up a bit and add to the collective knowledge. As I >>>> said, I posted on this list the kinds of transfer rates I was getting >>>> when I >>>> first when powerline. Before that, folks here were a bit indifferent to >>>> powerline. the tech has improved (thank goodness). Running real Cat5/6 >>>> is >>>> still your best option, but this is becoming a close second and in terms >>>> of >>>> ease of use& WAF in an existing house, might be best. >>>> >>>> On 6/13/2011 2:32 AM, Brian Weeden wrote: >>>> >>>> So how does the powerline stuff work? Do you need a special powerline >>>>> router that does both wireless and the wired? Can you have everything >>>>> on >>>>> the same network? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Brian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:07 PM,<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I would definitely do powerline. It I've used the wd av, and handled >>>>> >>>>>> bd >>>>>> iso. No way will that happen over any wireless >>>>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Brian Weeden<[email protected]> >>>>>> Sender: [email protected] >>>>>> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:06:21 >>>>>> To:<[email protected]> >>>>>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [H] Building a wireless network to support video >>>>>> streaming >>>>>> >>>>>> Completely agree that wired is better. But as I said, in this case I >>>>>> probably don't have a choice. With two toddlers running around (1 and >>>>>> 3 >>>>>> years old) I can't really afford to have cables lying around >>>>>> everywhere. >>>>>> So >>>>>> it's either powerline or Wifi. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the tips on the Powerline - I'll look into it. You say you >>>>>> have >>>>>> had good experience with it? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Brian >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Anthony Q. Martin< >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Here is the Amazon product: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/review/R1RFORI4QGV7UE/ref=cm_cr_dp_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B004PA9PBQ&nodeID=172282&tag=&linkCode=#wasThisHelpful >>>>>> >>>>>> Note the reviewer claim they stream HD (whatever that means). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/12/2011 6:45 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Next month we're moving to a new house, one that we will be renting >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>> few years. I'm looking at how to stream content from our home media >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> server >>>>>>>> around the house. It looks like running LAN cables will not be an >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> option >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> we will have to do it wirelessly >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We will be streaming everything from 480p xvid to 1080p Blu Ray >>>>>>>> rips, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>> generally to no more than one device at a time (perhaps worst case >>>>>>> two, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> although not likely both 1080p). My initial thought is to setup two >>>>>>>> separate Wifi networks - one on 5 Ghz dedicated to the HTPCs and >>>>>>>> media >>>>>>>> server, and a separate 2.4 Ghz network for everything else. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Has anyone tried that before and run into problems? I think I can >>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>> have all the devices on both networks on the same LAN as long as >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>> all on the same subnet, right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> Brian >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
