I guess I'll jump in too.. :)

raw hardware alone doesn't yield a better experience.  There are different
reasons to using the AppleTV but it works like a neat wireless projector
from your iPad so if you have a Keynote (Powerpoint) presentation you can
easily stream it to a big screen tv.

for most users the appleTV seems to provide the best of all worlds, for
your casual user, it's an easy setup, for your experienced techy guy, it's
just a jailbreak away from awesomeness...

other thoughts,
while google music is cool, there are not a lot of devices out there other
than android phones/tablets that will support it short of plugging them (or
laptop, does googleTV support google music?) into your receiver so you can
listen to music all throughout your home.  with AppleTV it is kinda neat to
be able to just plug it in, drop in your credentials and you have all your
music accessible to you whether you leave your laptop on or not.  But then
you also get access to your pictures as well, so it's easy to go through
them all on a big screen.

this being said you can also jailbreak and drop in things like XMBC or even
cooler firecore's ATVflash.  What's neat is that you can keep your iOS
menus, and it adds functionality like surfing to your local NAS and having
access to all your video files, YES even MKV, and while ATV2 is the fully
supported format for now, they will be kicking out an ATV3 version once
that is fully jailbroken.

I've wanted a Roku device because it seems so easy and it streams hulu etc.
BUT, to run local streaming it seems to still invovle a lot of work,
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4903/roku-2-xs-review-streaming-videos-and-casual-gaming-on-the-big-screen/7

short of going to a full blown HTPC, getting an ATV is an inexpensive buy
into this realm.  I happen to have both a popcornhour (A110 and ATV2) and
while I use the popcorn hour as my main movie box, I still use my ATV.  the
Popcorn hour has a drive and sits in the living room (mostly quite) but the
ATV which is fanless as well and no drive lives in the bedroom.

I think that there is a healthy competition of HTPC-like products in the
space at the moment, because I really want a merged experiance, my A110
with ATV.  while the A110 has a iOS remote function, it is nowhere near the
seamless usability of the remote app for the ATV.

plus I get better youtube and netflix on my ATV than the older A110, (i may
just need to buy the latest 300 popcorn hour though ;-) )



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On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:59, Joshua MacCraw <[email protected]> wrote:

> And why jailbreak a device nerfed by design with artificial limits when so
> many other choices exist.
>
> Outside of convincing people they are superior through marketing hype,
> apples only contribution is a well designed OS. When in comes to hardware
> they've less than special.
>  On Mar 18, 2012 2:51 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Its a neat device.  But like things like Roku, I don't see a lot of point
> > to it.   I mean, great, watch apple media on tv or netflix. Great. Every
> > bluray player out there seems to do netflix.
> >
> > No mkv.  Won't do bitstream audio, low bitrate 1080p isn't crazy
> > impressive, so..
> >
> > For those that hack it with xbmc, interesting.  I guess I'm waiting on a
> > Ceton Echo instead. :)
> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Tomporowski <[email protected]>
> > Sender: [email protected]: Sun, 18 Mar 2012
> > 16:57:05
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [H] Another Point of View of Apple TV
> >
> > I didn't post this to make any judgement on the Apple TV.  What caught
> > my eye was the incomprehension of what the devices does.  So many things
> > we think are pretty cool, the vast majority look at and shrug not even
> > interested enough to find out what it is supposed to do....
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On 3/18/2012 4:45 PM, Joshua MacCraw wrote:
> > > Yes, if you have made other apple bad choices it's the way to go for
> > sure!
> > > LOL
> > >   On Mar 18, 2012 9:18 AM, "Anthony Q. Martin"<[email protected]>
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Now that they have added 1080p from itunes it's a lot harder to say it
> > is
> > >> worthless...might not be the absolute best way to go...but if you have
> > >> apple devices it has some pluses...wireless projection is something
> ONLY
> > >> apple offers AFAIK in this type of device.
> > >>
> > >> On 3/18/2012 12:07 PM, Brian Weeden wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I  think it's a pretty perfect HTPC head-end.  For $99 you get a tiny
> > >>> device that consumes minimal power and can do 1080p.  If you
> jailbreak
> > it
> > >>> you can install XBMC on it:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.**php?title=XBMC_for_iOS_**specific_FAQ<
> > http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=XBMC_for_iOS_specific_FAQ>
> > >>>
> > >>> But aside from that, I'd never use it for just the iTunes stuff :)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ---------
> > >>> Brian
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin<
> > [email protected]>*
> > >>> *wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>   Not really a fair pov.
> > >>>> Sent from my iPad 2
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mar 18, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Steve Tomporowski<[email protected]
> **>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>   http://www.sheldoncomics.com/**archive/120308.html<
> > http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/120308.html>
> >
> >
>

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