Am currently looking at 3tb drives to do simple RAID for home storage with nothing mission critical in mind. The new Seagate Barracuda offering is very tempting from a price and performance point at the moment but it is only rated 2400 hours per year or something like that. Not that I would pouncea them 24/7 but some kind of peace of mine is nice. So now I'm looking at the 3tb XT version which is hard to find or the SV35 version of the 3tb.
Can I use those AV drives for normal storage? Never got a firm word on them. Any suggestions appreciated. On Jul 4, 2012 10:45 PM, "Anthony Q. Martin" <[email protected]> wrote: > > You dudes are so awesome! I'm running a box with 6 3-TB greens, 3 2-TB Greens, 3 Hitachi 3TB HDS5C3030ALA630s, 1 Seagate 3 TB (ST3000DM001) and a 750 Samsung boot drive in my movie box. I have another Seagate waiting to be deployed. All of this is just hanging on sata/esata ports with no raid. Just Windows 7 homegroup. Drives do have to wake up, so there is an initial delay sometimes. I have all the locations of titles stored in a spreadsheet, along with whether it is ISO (blue-ray), folders (DVD), or MKV (TV from blue-ray). If I get a crash...well, tough dodo. I can't possibly watch it all anyway. The hardest part to rebuild would be the TV stiff, because bit-perfect rips to MKV means you have to map the episodes, and that is work. But if I a crash, I might just forego the episodes and just rip to ISO. Such is life. This is all just non-critical for me. I must admit that I'm been thinking about burning all those MKVs to blu-rays! > > I have a poor man's lazy box. :) > > > On 7/4/2012 10:04 AM, DSinc wrote: >> >> Greg, >> Sheesh! I had no idea how collapsed the HD map had become. >> Perhaps I have been really lucky all these years with Seagate. >> Now, I may think some more about the future. >> Thank you for your share. >> Duncan >> >> On 07/04/2012 09:41, Greg Sevart wrote: >>> >>> If you're going behind a real RAID controller, of which the Areca 1223 >>> qualifies, you will either need to buy Hitachi drives (becoming harder to >>> find now that WD has swallowed them), or enterprise/RAID edition units from >>> other manufacturers. As has been brought up on other responses, consumer >>> class drives do not implement TLER (WD-specific) or more generically ERC >>> (Error Recovery Control). Some may say the risk is small - but it WILL >>> happen eventually, and it will happen at the worst possible time and could >>> very well result in total data loss. Green drives are especially notorious, >>> as they have a tendency to spin down regardless of OS-level power management >>> options, and will appear to hang when you access them. There are some >>> RAID-friendly "green" drives - the HGST 5Kxxxx series have worked well for >>> me, and WD has a specific RE4-GP line - but avoid all others, especially >>> WD's regular green drives, or the Samsung EcoGreens. >>> >>> I don't have a favorite HD manufacturer at the moment. I used to like WD, >>> but then they went out of their way to cripple their desktop-class drives >>> for RAID. Hitachi has been superb on this front, but now they are a part of >>> WD. Seagates haven't had a great reliability picture for a while and are >>> less predictable in RAID, and Samsung has been mostly absorbed into them >>> now. Some HGST manufacturing and design capability was divested to Toshiba >>> as part of the approval conditions from various regulatory entities, so we >>> could see new Toshiba 3.5" offerings at some point. >>> >>> Short version: If you can find Hitachi 7K3000 units, use those. The 5K3000's >>> would be fine too, but are almost impossible to find anymore. Failing that, >>> use enterprise class drives or you're putting your data at risk. Or, don't >>> use a RAID controller. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Maki >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 2:36 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [H] Hard Drive Warranties, Reliability and suggestions >>> >>> I have been out of the hard drive market since the flooding created insane >>> prices last year. It seems we are down to basically 2 choices, Seagate and >>> WD. For mass storage, I had been going with the Samsung 2TB "EcoGreen" >>> model, with great success. They have now been purchased by Seagate and have >>> only a 1 year warranty, a bit of a disappointment. I also have a number of 1 >>> TB WD Black Caviar units that have given great service. The 2TB model is >>> almost 2x the price of the Samsung/Seagate and WD Green models. Lastly, I >>> have several Hitachi 1TB 7200 RPM units that have not given me any issues. >>> >>> I am looking at building a new system for media storage and am trying to >>> determine the best approach. I am thinking on building on a hardware RAID >>> card to reduce the number of "partitions" (right now I have 21 "drives", >>> "partitions" and "DVDs," ranging from C: to W:, almost exhausting the >>> alphabet of available designations) and provide "automatic" backup. I have >>> read that many drives don't like hardware RAID cards unless you go with to >>> the ultra-expensive Enterprise drives. This system would not be designed for >>> speed (the 5400 RPM Samsungs streams movies without a problem), but safety >>> and reliability. >>> >>> I was looking at the Areca ARC-1223-8I PCI-Express 2.0 x8 Low Profile SATA / >>> SAS 8-Port PCIe 2.0 Internal SAS/SATA RAID Controller and eventually 8 >>> drives. Suggestions, comments or warnings? You input is much appreciated. >>> >>> Jim Maki >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > >
