Greg,
So.........We can look at Ivy Bridge again?
Even with its' higher temps?
Ivy Bridge is current to my read.
Duncan

On 09/18/2012 16:15, Greg Sevart wrote:
Unless you're running a hefty overclock from stock speeds, the TIM change
has trivial impact.

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Greg,
Can you please decode your 2d paragraph?
I get the misleading TIM specs relative to 'gaming' and
'normal' usage. Well, I think, anyway.
Thanks,
Duncan

On 09/18/2012 15:57, Greg Sevart wrote:
The Ivy Bridge chips consume less power and generate less heat than the
Sandy Bridge equivalents. The information you're seeing is only applicable
to large overclocks - Intel changed the material (TIM) used to thermally
couple the CPU die to the integrated heat spreader, and the new material
is
less efficient (but cheaper) than what was used previously. Under
normal/stock scenarios, the replaced TIM has no material impact, but under
high load, overclocked conditions, it can cause the chip itself to report
higher temps.

An H80 is overkill for IB at stock speeds. You can go with a more
traditional air cooler if that helps your case decision.

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Udstrand
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:56 PM
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Subject: [H] Ivy Bridge and heat? Case and Coolers

I am building a new PC and just assumed I should move to the Ivy Bridge
series.  I was thinking that the new 22nm die would lead to less heat, but
it seems that the new processors are running hotter than the Sandy Bridge
CPU's.  Odd.  Because of this I have been contemplating going with a
liquid
cooler for the CPU, in particular the Corsair H80 or the H100.  These
coolers do have particular space requirements and it has made my case
choice difficult.

I don't plan on dual video cards since I don't game much.  This PC will be
primarily for video/photo and audio (will dual cards provide any benefit
in
these applications?).  The PC will have a Crucial 256GB SSD drive (thanks
Naushad!) and one other drive.   I will probably add a blu-ray drive too.

My case needs are

1) Quiet
2) Good Thermals
3) Room for a H80 or H100
4) Small

The cases I have been looking at are the Lian Li and the Corsair cases.
   There are so many models it makes my head spin and it is at best
difficult
to determine if the cooler will actually fit.  Again, I am hoping to stay
as small as possible and I would like a silent PC, or at least as close as
I can get it (it will be in a home recording studio).

With my numerous needs/wants in mind, can anyone recommend a case/cooler?
   Is the Corsair water cooling the best way to go?   I want a nice high
end
computer, that runs cool and quiet and is silent, is that so much to ask
for?  LOL.

Any opinions, ideas, etc. are most welcome.

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