Hello,

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 01:04:41 +0100
adrian15 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Kevin O'Connor escribió:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 03:01:58AM +0100, adrian15 wrote:
> >>    Although I have not tried to boot any other device-adapted
> >> Linux with Haret yet I have come to the conclusion that I should
> >> ask the Haret developers about boot help.
> >>
> >>    Is Haret ready (in development version) for PXA 310?
> > 
> > I don't know of anyone that has used haret on a PXA 310.
> :( I supposed it.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, my understanding is that Marvell does not publish the
> > register level specifications for the PXA chip.  As a result of
> > this, we have no way of knowing if haret needs to be changed or not
> > to support the cpu.
> Is there an small probability that Haret does not need to be changed?

Is your thesis in humanitarian area? ;-) Engineers don't guess, they
test, prove and implement ;-). Just try to run haret in "research" mode
and see if it can give any useful info on internals. To make it boot
Linux, it of course will need changes.

> > 
> >>    If I give you some logs like the ones explained here:
> >>    http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation
> >>    (Pollings GIOs and so on...) is it easy for you to adapt
> >> Haret to PXA 310? It takes how long usually to adapt Haret to a
> >> new processor type?
> > 
> > With docs, it probably takes a day or so.  Without docs, it could
> > take several months of dedicated reverse engineering.
> I can't spend so long time in my thesis waiting for reverse
> engineering. In fact the thesis objetive is not reverse engineering
> but using an application inside java inside a linux that it is inside
> a pda but I think my thesis director has not choosen the right pda.

Heh. Then he appears to be either that kind of pain-in-the guy, or
maybe PDA porting alumni who wants you to make something good to the
community while you write the thesis. And what kind of thesis is that?
If it's term/yearly type one, the guy wants to play tricks at you, go
shame him. But if it's graduation type work, you should be glad he
doesn't make you solder your own hardware design, because otherwise,
building (almost) complete system bottom up is pretty good task for
an engineering to prove he's in industry ;-).

> > 
> >>    Is it safe to test current Haret versions on my PXA 310.
> >> Which machine type should I set?
> > 
> > Just launching haret should cause no issues (no warranty of course).
> Ok.
> > In particular, you'll want to run the steps outlined in the "Early
> > logging" section from
> > http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation
> > and forward the resulting haretlog.txt file to this list.
> I've read this part of the documentation. I might do it if it is
> worthy (I have some doubts about Marvell not publishing register
> level specifications.)

Support for PXA3xx has been pushed by Marvell to mainline for some time
now. I'm not sure 2.6.24 has it all, but it's for sure available
publicly. The code, not documentation.

> 
> > 
> > The mtype is determined by the linux kernel that you are trying to
> > run.  You're either going to find someone else that has ported linux
> > to your device - in which case, they'll list the mtype - or, you're
> > going to have to port linux yourself.
> I have found the machine type.
> It's 1388.
> http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/?action=list&id=1388

Nope, a random machine having "marvell" and "pxa310" is not what you
need. Also, a machine type is just a number, there's nothing magic in
it. All magic lies in the code which interprets that number. No code -
the machine type is useless.

> 
>  >  Porting linux requires advanced
> > C coding skills and advanced knowledge of the linux kernel
> > internals.
> And yet again advanced knowledge of the linux kernel internals is not 
> inside my thesis objetives.

Go get stone-age Sharp Zaurus then. You don't need to hack anything
low-level with it - it even comes with some kind of java already
installed.

> > 
> > You can find other developers familiar with Linux ports to handhelds
> > on irc at #htc-linux on irc.freenode.net.
> Ok, thank you.
> 
> While you decide to answer me about if it is worthy to even test
> Haret on Hp Ipaq 114 (I have to ask my thesis director for the pda. I
> have to spend some time on the tests and I have not too much time.) I
> am going to try to edit the wiki so that there is a link to the haret
> mailing list web interface instead of just the maling list mail and I
> will probably fix two or more three things.

That's appreciated, just be considerate of your changes ;-).

> 
> Thank you for your knowledge, again.
> 
> adrian15
> 



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