On Nov 14, 2005, at 1:44 AM, Neil Macneale wrote:

Mark Wielaard wrote:

Hi Leo,
On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 05:38 -0800, Leo Simons wrote:

I keep getting lost in the licensing discussions. I *think* the below accurately
represents where we are right now.

Thanks for writing this down. I'll try to clarify some things below. There is one nitpick with the whole setup though. It really reads as if harmony is just an ordinary Apache project. While when we started it we want it to be something that is a much larger cooperative effort between various different individuals, organizations and projects with similar goals but completely different backgrounds. Presenting harmony as just an Apache project doesn't do justice to it. And I feel it will fail if we do that. There are a lot of people working on all the sister projects who we currently are not giving the feeling they are part of our harmony
collaboration. This is not something specific to your email though. I
often get the feeling that people on this list act as if Apache is the be all, end all for harmony and getting to a free software replacement
for the proprietary non-free j2se implementations. And that does push
away a lot of people who have been working on all this for years without
any Apache involvement at all. I personally feel that way at times
reading some of the discussions. Lets try to be a little more inclusive and get the support of those hundreds of people working already on the
same goal, but who don't currently feel part of harmony.


This may be some what off topic, but I'm going to ask anyway...

I am not clear what it is about the GPL which does not allow someone to package it up and distribute it for use with non-GPL code.

Well, it's not non-GPL code per se, but rather code under licenses that aren't compatible with the GPL.

The problem is that many licenses are incompatible. You cannot combine code under the Apache License and code under the GPL and (according to the FSF) conform to the terms of the GPL. Because we believe in respecting license terms, we're stuck.

geir

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