On Nov 17, 2005, at 5:50 PM, Leo Simons wrote:

On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 05:28:26PM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
On Nov 17, 2005, at 4:41 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Leo Simons wrote:
Note this would kind-of be a
one-way licensing bridge, eg Classpath would still not be able to
incorporate code
developed at harmony into their codebase (much like classpath
currently can't take
code licensed only under the GPL since the copyright holders need
to agree to that
exception first). Of course, there is never something which would
prevent
individuals who contribute stuff to harmony to contribute that
same stuff to
classpath and it is explicitly fine for the classpath community to
ask for stuff
like that.

And it is to be noted that the above is *NOT* because the ASF does
not want this from happening. We would love to see GPL link and
ship apache licensed code in their system, but the GPL2, as it
currently stand, doesn't not allow that.

Truth is, nothing prevents Classpath from add another little thing
to the exception that says "and we know that code such and such is
covered by the apache license".

That's interesting.  I never thought of this.  Given that GNU
Classpath is able to modify the GPL with the exception, how about
adding something that removes the "can't work with Apache License"
problem?

"As a special exception, for Classpath we have decided to make all the
problems described at

  http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html

go away."

And then in proper lawyer terms.

I think all you need is a "forthwith", "notwithstanding" and "a priori" sprinkled in there in the right places, and you are set. Oh, and throw in an "estoppel" for good measure.


Heh. Very interesting, very pragmatic! Mark, do you think there's
any chance of making this happen?

Now, obviously, the ASF isn't going to say that such an exception thing is a good idea (since there's doubt on the ASF side about exceptions to
the GPL in general, IIUC), but the ASF doesn't really need to say
anything about that if the FSF decides to make such a change -- its their
license and their code after all.

whoohooh, looks like a way to seperate concerns!


:)

geir

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