Hello Paulex,

Please refer to JDiff (http://javadiff.sourceforge.net/), maybe this is tool can meet your requirement more. :-D

Richard Liang
China Software Development Lab, IBM



Dalibor Topic wrote:
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 02:12:16PM +0800, Paulex Yang wrote:
Stuart,

Stuart Ballard wrote:
Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison <at> gmail.com> writes:
Stuart: is there some way to avoid JAPI taking inherited API signatures
into account when doing the diff?  kinda like the javadoc tool.
This is something of a Japi FAQ (I should probably put together a Japi FAQ page somewhere now that it's no longer the case that pretty much everyone using Japi
is on the Classpath list ;) ).

The answer is no, it doesn't do this, and I'm not going to implement it. The reason is that whether a method is overridden or not is *not* part of the public API. Javadoc documents it, sure, but that's not really sufficient to say whether it's part of the API or not - it's quite likely it was simply easier to write
Javadoc that way (so it didn't have to go and find the doc comments in the
superclass's source file, etc).

The rules of binary compatibility say that moving a method up or down the class
hierarchy is a completely compatible change.

A method may be overridden, or not, purely for performance reasons and the
behavior could be completely identical. For example, LinkedList.subList is not
documented as being overridden, but if it's not, that guarantees that the
iterator() method will always be at least O(N) where N is the startIndex that the sublist was created with. An overridden LinkedList.subList method could hang on to the start and end nodes of the list and provide an O(1) implementation of iterator(). As long as some effort was taken to ensure that serialization stayed compatible, there's no reason why a Free runtime shouldn't do that optimization
even if Sun doesn't.

I've also heard of cases where Sun documents a method as being overridden even though as far as any testing can determine, all it does is call super. There should be no obligation for any Free runtime to duplicate this inefficiency.

It's also possible to implement a method that needs changed behavior in a
subclass by making the superclass delegate some parts of its behavior to
non-public methods, so the superclass method is unchanged but the subclass just overrides the non-public methods (obviously, this only works if the subclass is
in the same package, but that's pretty common).

Finally, it's possible (albeit unlikely) that even if there *was* an apparent need to override a method in a subclass because it has different behavior, there
might be some weird optimization-related reason why somebody might want to
actually write it as "if (this instanceof Whatever)" in the superclass. I can't
see why that would happen, but if someone did that and got all the behavior
right, they shouldn't be penalized for it in Japi.
Most of above is true and has good reason, but as a practicer trying to implement a RI compatible class library, I still feel strongly that the method override information has its value, maybe a most common example is equals(Object), most classes don't override this method and only call j.l.Object's, but others DO has their own criteria, it's very reasonable to just remind programmer to implement this method, otherwise it will introduce serious compatibility issue.


It won't introduce a binary compatibility issue. That's what really
matters. You can't get semantics like who overloads what right via a tool, you need to read the specs to see if you should override equals/hashCode or not, and how.

Just as a proposal, if you still feel that override difference is another story with common difference, how about to separate them into another category, similar with Compiler's warning, which at least can be as reference to programmer, and this information even can be switched on only if some user want to check the difference more *strictly*.
Basically, Japi's business is to test the coverage of the API, and it's a
fundamental design decision that Japi will *not* be testing implementation
details. I've done quite a lot of work fixing bugs where implementation details inadvertently get exposed in the Japi results and if I find any more I'll fix
them too.

I think this is *extremely* important because, among other things, it's the
*only* reason I feel legally secure in distributing Japi files for the JDK. As long as they only contain functional information necessary for interoperability, they're uncopyrightable. If they start exposing copyrightable implementation details, they become derived works of the JDK, and illegal to distribute (or,
technically, to even create in the first place). And potentially so do the
results of the comparisons. And if you then use those comparisons to make
decisions on what to implement in Harmony, it jeopardizes Harmony's cleanroom
status too. (IANAL; the people who actually decide whether legal risks are
acceptable might think this isn't actually a problem for Harmony, but *I* don't
want to be responsible for it ;) )

The right way to ensure that you've overridden all the right methods is to test the *behavior* of those methods. Obviously this is a lot more work than a simple automated run via Japi or equivalent, but it's the only way to get meaningful
results.
It is definitely the right way, but maybe not the most practical one. Still the example of equals(), do we need a testEquals for every single class? or do we still need to check the JavaDoc one by one to find difference on this method? why not the tool just give some warning to some possible incompatible?

Because a tool can't know if an implementation detail outside of the
binary compatibility spec is relevant for an implementation of the J2SE
API spec or not. AI hasn't caught up with that goal yet. :)

For example, different compatible implementations of the spec may or may not chose to override equals for a class: as long
as they are binary compatible (trivial if we are not overriding), and fulfil
both the contract of the spec for equals in their class, and the
contract for equals in the superclasses, they are OK.
You could for
example, implement Object.equals as a giant instanceof if-else cascade
for all the defined types in J2SE, and save yourself all the wasted
bytes of storage going into having many little trivial methods in many
classes. Such an implementation would be convenient for embedded uses,
as it shaves off unnecessary bytecodes very nicely, and still be fully compatible with the specs.
You could also implement a generic,
reflection based equals method in Object that does the right thing in
99% of the cases, and just override the few cases where that's not
good enough. Or use AOP, or something else, as long as your code is binary compatible.

So yes, you need to wade through the specs one by one to implement them
faithfully. On the other hand, the specs also give you a lot of leeway
to do the right thing efficiently, without having to explicitely mimic
the RI. :)

cheers,
dalibor topic

Obviously since Japi is Free Software I can't prevent others from making a
version that does this, but I hope I've shown why I think it would be a bad idea.

There is another issue of JAPI, pls. correct me if I'm wrong, seems the *final* information is also ignored. I also think this difference of method signature is a compatibility issue which could not be overlooked, because the spec writer might have consider very carefully about which methods can be overridden and which should be immutable. Comments?
Stuart.


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Paulex Yang
China Software Development Lab
IBM



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