So, it seems there is consensus on the following steps:
1) We ask Sun again about the bdtd specs
2) We do NOT reverse engineer the bdtd
3) We choose a format, and document it.

It also seems that serialization is not the proper way of doing 3), so we
must select a format that doesn't depend on the implementation of, say,
Hashtable, and we remain compatible with future versions of the class
libraries.
What about using ASN.1? We already have a decoder, so it shouldn't be
difficult

On 7/27/06, Ivanov, Alexey A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:08 PM
>To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: Re: [classlib][html] Should we try to be binary compatible
with
>Sun's bdtd?
>
<SNIP>
>> The method read(DataInputStream). It's poorly  documented, but it
reads a
>> DTD in an unspecified binary format. The default DTD is stored in
this
>> format in a file named html32.bdtd (or html401.bdtd, in the case of
the
>> recent contribution).

This method seems to be undocumented at all until people asked for it
[1].

>> As Alexey pointed out, there is no method to write a DTD, so maybe
nobody
>> uses the method read() anyway. But I see no point in having a public
>method
>> that nobody can use. So I think we can:
>> 1) Ask Sun to release the specification (if there is one)

We should try this once more (The first attempt was made in [1]).

>> or
>> 2) Figure it out, and document it
>> or
>> 3) Release our own specification

Maybe specification is not the right word here. I believe we _can_
document which format we use. So that anyone can prepare their own
archive file with DTD, read it using jx.s.t.html.parser.DTD.read, pass
it to parser.

>
>since the method is public and part of javax.swing, we need to
implement
>it, but this looks like a mistake or an overlook (and there are no
swing
>tests in the TCK anyway so we can do whatever we please).

It is not the only place where a public method is present, but it has no
use because of lack of documentation.

>
>I think it's safe to try #1 and #2 in parallel with different people.
>Geir can do #1 while you can do #2.
>
>/me loves to delegate ;-) (aka lazy ass mode)
>
>I would suggest against #3: specifications are something that we are
not
>tasked to do (even to compensate lack of such), as it might deliver the
>wrong message.
>

[1] http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4216248

Regards,

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Alexey A. Ivanov
Intel Middleware Product Division

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