On 11/14/06, Robin Garner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Salikh Zakirov wrote:
> As we discussed before, the VTable marks approach [1] has a "false
sharing" problem
> on a multiprocessor:
>
> when one thread is writing to vtable mark, it is invalidating respective
cache line
> in other processor caches. Meanwhile, since gcmaps, located near vtable
marks,
> are loaded frequently during heap tracing, the same cache line will be
loaded
> and invalidated repeatedly, leading to huge load to memory bus and
harming performance.
>
> *Illustration*: original "VTable marks" suggestion applied to current
DRLVM object layout.
>
>    object            VTable                   gcmap
>  +--------+        +-----------+            +------------------+
>  | VT ptr |------->| gcmap ptr |----------->| offset of ref #1 |
>  |  ...   |        |   mark    |            | offset of ref #2 |
>  +--------+        +    ...    |            |       ...        |
>                    +-----------+            |        0         |
>                                             +------------------+
>
> I would like suggest solution to false sharing problem using additional
> level of indirection, that is, to store the _pointer to mark word_  in
VTable
> rather than mark word itself.
>
> *Illustration*: "indirect VTable marks" suggestion
>
>    object            VTable                   gcmap
>  +--------+        +-----------+            +------------------+
>  | VT ptr |------->| gcmap ptr |----------->| offset of ref #1 |
>  |  ...   |        |  mark ptr |---,        | offset of ref #2 |
>  +--------+        +    ...    |   |        |       ...        |
>                    +-----------+   |        |        0         |
>                                    |        +------------------+
>                                    v
>                               [mark word]
>
> I do not think this will hurt performance significantly in comparison
with original
> "vtable marks" approach, because, additional load of mark_ptr is very
likely
> to be served from the first-level cache, because it happens at the same
time
> as gcmap_ptr load. (If the mark_ptr is loaded first, then subsequent
load of gcmap_ptr
> will be served from cache, so no additional memory load overhead
anyway).
>
> In current DRLVM design [2], each VTable already have pointers to native
Class structure:
>
>     Class* clss;
>
> It looks like the same pointer can be reused for VTable mark word, if we
allocate
> VTable mark word as the first word of struct Class.
> In this way, even the size of VTable structure will not be changed
comparing
> to current size. The resulting object layout diagram would be
>
> *Illustration*: "indirect VTable marks stored in struct Class"
>
>    object            VTable                   gcmap
>  +--------+        +-----------+            +------------------+
>  | VT ptr |------->| gcmap ptr |----------->| offset of ref #1 |
>  |  ...   |        |  clss ptr |---,        | offset of ref #2 |
>  +--------+        +    ...    |   |        |       ...        |
>                    +-----------+   |        |        0         |
>                                    |        +------------------+
>                                    v
>                              +-----------+
>                              | mark word |
>                              |    ...    |
>                              +-----------+
>                               struct Class

Whether this helps performance depends on the cache policy of the
multiprocessor.  I'm not sufficiently versed in cache architectures to
say, but I would expect that machines with sufficiently weak memory
models will make this cheap, those without will be expensive.


Good point.  My guess is that it will be hard to finish this part of the
design without trying out some different implementations on selected HW.
There may be factors in addition to false sharing of vtable marks that do
not show up in debate.  But do show up in experiment.


> Robin suggested "side byte-map" as another solution to the same false
sharing problem.
> As I do not completely understand how this side byte-map would be
implemented,
> I do not know if it is similar to this suggestion.
>
> Robin, could you comment on it?
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/ClassUnloading
> [2]
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/harmony/enhanced/drlvm/trunk/vm/vmcore/include/vtable.h?view=co

Hi Salikh,
I nearly missed this post because I usually filter on [drlvm], but I'm
happy to explain.

Metadata 'on the side' is a standard technique in GC.  Take the simplest
case, where you want to do mark-sweep, but don't have any space in the
object to do so.

Assume (initially, for maximum simplicity) that all objects are of the
same size (n bytes).  Allocate an array of booleans of size
(heap-bytes/n), marks[].  So the nth object is represented by marks[n].

In reality, objects have variable sizes, so you can relax the conditions
by allocating an array of (heap/max-align), and marking the boolean
corresponding to the header of every object.

In MMTk's side mark-bit implementation, we use distributed metadata,
specifically, when we allocate 4MB of virtual addresses, we allocate
2^22/2^6 = 2^16 bits = 8k bytes of 'side bitmap' at the beginning of the
4MB chunk.

Calculating the address of the mark bit is a simple mask and shift
operation on the address of the mark bit (pure register/ALU, v fast,
overlapped with memory fetches).

hope this helps,
Robin

> (*
> This is a follow-up to design proposals at
> http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/ClassUnloading
>
> I am starting new discussion because mailing list is a better means for
discussion
> than Wiki. After we come to conclusion, I will log it to the wiki page.
> *)
>
>


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Australian National University
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