On 13 Sep 2005, at 14:45, Dhaemon wrote:


Hello,
I'm quite interested in haskell, but there is something I don't understand(intuitively). I've been crawling the web for an answer, but nothing talks to me...
So I was hoping I could find some help here:
"How is evaluating an expression different from performing action?"
I'm puzzled... Doesn't it amount to the same thing? Maybe I have a wrong definition of "evaluating"(determine the value of an expression)?
Examples would be appreciated.
Also, just for kicks, may I had this: I read the code of some haskell-made programs and was astonished. Yes! It was clean and all, but there were "do"s everywhere... Why use a function language if you use it as an imperative one?(i.e. most of the apps in http:// haskell.org/practice.html)


The difference is all about referential transparency -- in short, a function given the same inputs will always give the same result. This is not the same as in imperative languages, where functions/ methods/actions can have 'side-effects' that change the behavior of the rest of the program.

Take this example:

C program:
#define square(x) ((x) * (x))
#define inc(x) ((x)++)

int myFunc (int *x)
{
    return square(inc(*x));
}

the C preprocessor will re-write the return line to:
return ((((x)++)) * (((x)++)));

this will be performed in sequence, so, x will be incremented (changing the value of x), and that result will be multiplied by x incremented again.

so if we run myFunc(&y), where y is 5, what we get is 5 incremented to 6, and them multiplied by 6 incremented to 7. So the result of the function is 42 (when you might reasonably expect 36), and y is incremented by 2, when you might reasonably expect it to be incremented by 1.

Haskell program:

square x = x * x
inc = (+1)
myFunc = square . inc

and we now call myFunc 5, we get this evaluation:

myFunc 5 is reduced to (square . inc) 5
(square . inc) 5 is reduced to square (inc 5)
square (inc 5) is reduced to square ((+1) 5)
square ((+1) 5) is reduced to square 6
square 6 is reduced to 6 * 6
6 * 6 is reduced to 36

If you want to study these reductions on a few more examples, you might want to download the Hat tracer, and use hat-anim to display reductions step by step.

Bob

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