I think this hits the nail on the head. To be blunt, the presence of so many academics and scientists in the Haskell community is intimidating to those of us that work "in industry". Our brains are, after all, not as highly trained as yours, and we care about different things than you do.
Now I don't mean to say that the academics and scientists should go away! Far from it. Just that it would be great to hear more about the mundane aspects of programming occasionally. Like, how exactly do I read from a relational database with Haskell? Or process an XML file? Or build an event-driven GUI? And crucially, why does Haskell do those things better than Java, or C#, or Ruby? If somebody could write some articles on those subjects, and get them up on popular websites like Digg or Reddit, this would be far more helpful than yet another monad tutorial. The Haskell web server that Simon Peyton-Jones et al described in their paper would be a great example. But where's the download? How do I get a copy to play with? In the "real world", things don't stop with the publication of a paper ;-) I think Haskell has huge potential to improve mainstream programming, if it could only catch on a bit. I don't know how to make that happen, unfortunately (if I did, I would do it, and hopefully get rich in the process). But whatever Haskell needs, it's not getting at the moment. Neil > Hello Kaveh, > > Sunday, December 10, 2006, 6:15:23 PM, you wrote: > >> chosen one. But Haskell seems to be buzz-full research platform. Now again to the top : what is the aim of Haskell project? If it is going to be used in real world applications it needs more attention to real world application developers and their needs. > > you are right - just now Haskell is a huge technology with non-obvious path to learn. there is some work to make Haskell more pragmatic, but it's an chicken-and-egg problem - we have a small number of pragmatic programmers > that use Haskell and therefore it's hard to change Haskell to suit their needs, on the other hand this means that pragmatic programmers can't grok > Haskell > > on the way to make Haskell more pragmatic i especially mention renewal of > Haskell standard to include modern language extensions, modern programming > environments such as WinHugs or BusinessObjects, development of web/db/gui > libraries, and definition of core (standard) libraries set > > one particular thing that we still lack is something like book "Haskell in > real world" > > -- > Best regards, > Bulat mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > _______________________________________________ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
