Ok, I've done some more thinking about this. I think the primary difference between the games you cited in your article, and more complex games is that for more complex games, it's easier to think of a strategy as a function of the current board position, rather than the moves leading up to it. For games like Nim, it's not so hard to characterize the moves made thus far, and devise a strategy. Take chess for an example of a more complex game though. Let's just consider a couple of moves from the starting position (I'll assume you know or can work out the meaning of this basic notation). f2-f3, e7-e5, g2-g4. Now black has a mate-in-1 he can play: d8-h4#. This is relatively trivial to see from the given position - yet the 2 main pieces involved in the mate (the black queen and white king) haven't even been moved yet, and it's not at all easy to see just what the given moves have to do with the mate. It's much easier if you take the original position, make the moves, and then create a strategy that is a function of the current position.
So, while I'm not necessarily disagreeing with anything you said in your article, I'm just not sure this is a viable way to model game-playing strategies for non-trivial games. I'd definitely like to hear more of your thoughts on this though. Thanks for all your great work! On 3/19/07, Andrew Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Dan, I just made the connection between you and your blog, by the way - great stuff, keep it up. This particular blog is fascinating, too, but I'm not sure how useful it is to look at more complex 2-player games this way. I'll have to think about it some more On 3/19/07, Dan Piponi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: "Andrew Wagner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > After all, functional programming has > > long been recognized for being good at AI, yet you rarely hear about > > it being done in Haskell. > > A small observation that might or might not be useful for implementing > game AIs: 2 player games and their strategies form a monad in a > non-trivial way. > http://sigfpe.blogspot.com/2006/10/games-strategies-and-self-composition.html >
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