Yep - I've seen it in course work I've set in the past - random walk through the arrangement of symbols in the language (it was a process algebra work and proof system to check deadlock freedom).
... but ... Haskell even helps those people - if you've created something that works (and you are at least sensible to create a test suite be it regression or property based) - then there is more confidence that they've coded "a" solution (if not a good one). Haskell raises the value of formality (both ecomomically and in terms of its caché) - changin the mindset of the "masses" - creating the meme - that's tricky. Especialy if they're really off the B Ark! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/hitchhikers/guide/golgafrincham.shtml) Neil On 18/04/07, Michael Vanier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
R Hayes wrote: > > > > On Apr 17, 2007, at 4:46 PM, David Brown wrote: > >> R Hayes wrote: >> >>> They *enjoy* debugging ... >> >> >> I have to say this is one of the best things I've found for catching >> bad programmers during interviews, no matter what kind of system it is >> for. I learned this the hard way after watching someone who never >> really understood her program, but just kept thwacking at it with a >> debugger until it at least partially worked. > > > I've seen this too, but I would not use the word debugging to describe > it. I don't think I agree that enjoying debugging is a sufficient > symptom for diagnosing this condition. There are many people that > love the puzzle-box aspect of debugging. Some of them are very > talented developers. > > R Hayes > rfhayes<>@</>reillyhayes.com > >> >> Dave >> I agree with the latter sentiment. I call the "thwacking at it" approach "random programming" or "shotgun programming", the latter suggesting that it's like shooting at the problem randomly until it dies. I prefer not having to debug, but when I do have to I find it fun (up to a point). Mike _______________________________________________ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
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