On 11/21/07, apfelmus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A slightly different point of view is that you use a term implementation > for your monad, at least for the interesting primitive effects
That's a really interesting point of view, which had struck me slightly, but putting it quite clearly like that definitely helps me understand what is going on. In fact, it seems like I can implement the original "list" and "state" examples from the Unimo paper in terms of Prompt as well, using a specialized observation function. For example: data StateP s a where Get :: StateP s s Put :: s -> StateP s () runStateP :: Prompt (StateP s) a -> s -> (a,s) runStateP (PromptDone a) s = (a,s) runStateP (Prompt Get k) s = runStateP (k s) s runStateP (Prompt (Put s) k) _ = runStateP (k ()) s instance MonadState s (Prompt (StatePrompt s)) where get = prompt Get put = prompt . Put Strangely, this makes me less happy about Prompt rather than more; if it's capable of representing any reasonable computation, it means it's not really the "targeted silver bullet" I was hoping for. On the other hand, it still seems useful for what I am doing. I definitely feel like the full term implementation (like the Unimo paper describes) is overkill; unless I'm misunderstanding what's going on there, you're basically destroying any ability for the compiler to reason about your computations by reifying them into data. As long as (>>=) and return are functions that get inlined, lots of extraneous computation can be eliminated as the compiler "discovers" the monad laws through compile-time beta-reduction; once you turn them into data constructors that ability basically goes away. That said, the generalization to monad transformers and the metaprogramming techniques demonstrated look pretty cool. -- ryan
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