Well, my original post wasn't that negative ...

Indeed "then f [by e]" seems a nice idea *but* 
the point was that I'd like to have this in any monad.

The type of f in "then f" should be  m a -> m b, not just m a -> m a, 
because then you don't need special syntax for "group",
which is somewhat like [a] -> [[a]] ?

J.W.






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