Sorry Bryan, there are a couple of comments I should make a final reply to - 
I'll ignore the rest.




> From: Richard O'Keefe <o...@cs.otago.ac.nz>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:52 PM

-snip-
>>  Says who? Is that on your own authority or some other source you can point 
>> us to?
> 
> It looks increasingly as though there is no point in this discussion.
> Is there ANY conceivable criticism of Java that will not elicit
> ad hominem attacks from you?

It isn't an ad hominem attack to ask you who's the authority that made some 
recommendation.


-snip-
>>  Wait just a moment - you wrote "I didn't _think_ I'd omitted 
>>   anything important" and now it turns out that the measurements were made 
>>   using your personal Smalltalk implementation!
>> 
>>  You have got to be joking.
> 
> Why? 

Because you omitted basic information about the measurements you presented.


-snip-
>>  imo It would be better to "show how much better programs using other 
> data structures and algorithms perform those specific tasks" than brandish 
> anecdotes from a past century.
> 
> "Past century"?  Insults, is it?

No, it's an echo of the words you used - "...insanely difficult in Fortran 77.  
This century's Fortran is of course another matter."


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