Hi, fullquote for Iain’s benefit, who takes care for Haskell in Ubuntu but may not be on this mailing list.
Am Donnerstag, den 07.06.2012, 15:55 +0900 schrieb Jens Petersen: > For a while I have been feeling that Linux distros seem to be at a bit > of a disadvantage compared to Windows and MacOS for Haskell Platfom > releases. > > Since distros ship a lot more Haskell packages than just Platform, > updating haskell-platform is a major task for us... > > I think at least Ubuntu and Fedora are basically on time-based release > schedules. In particular Ubuntu releases twice a year in April and > October and the Fedora Project normally releases roughly a month later > [1]. Not sure if this applies as much to Debian as well, but at least > Ubuntu and Fedora are two of the major Linux distros so it would be > advantageous for the Haskell community using Linux systems if the > Platform schedule could be made better for Linux users to give distros > a better chance of shipping a recent release. > > So I am wondering now what would be the optimal time for Haskell > Platform releases say for Ubuntu? Given that Fedora generally > releases after Ubuntu - a date that works well for Ubuntu would > probably work well for Fedora too. > > For example looking at the coming Fedora 18 development cycle [2] the > Alpha freeze is currently 2012-08-14 and Beta freeze is set for > 2012-09-18. > So for Fedora at least, if we wanted to have ghc-7.4.2+ and Haskell > Platform 2012.4 in the next release (we just released Fedora 17 with > haskell-platform-2011.4...), then I think we would need the final > 2012.4 release in August and an alpha/beta release in July. I imagine > the cut-off dates for Ubuntu might be roughly a month earlier say, but > hopefully the Ubuntu people can chime in on their thoughts too? > > Otherwise at least for the Fedora 18 release in November probably we > will just stick with ghc-7.4.1 and HP 2012.2 to follow the stable > platform. The current HP schedule of a final in November is really > too late for Fedora 18 and Ubuntu 12.10, but maybe okay for Fedora 19 > and Ubuntu 13.04: though that is quite a lag, which is the problem I > am trying to highlight in this mail. > > If others have thoughts or ideas for improving the turnaround time for > Linux Haskell Platform and making Linux more of a first class HP > citzen, I would be interested to hear them. > > Personally I would favour maybe decoupling the HP source and binary > releases completely, and also doing more regular developmental HP > releases between the stable ones to make it a more continuous > opensource process. speaking for Debian: Our release process is probably a bit too unpredictable for a fixed date. We do, however, benefit from early version bumps in the pre-release branch; the mtl/transformer transition is still not finished in Debian (due to having to rebuild almost 200 packages and some architectures like sparc being a bit slow these days). Knowing about the packages versions earlier means less work after the official release of the platform. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim "nomeata" Breitner Debian Developer nome...@debian.org | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: nome...@joachim-breitner.de | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata
signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
_______________________________________________ Haskell-platform mailing list Haskell-platform@projects.haskell.org http://projects.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-platform
