I'd also like one of the options that gets us a working Mac platform soon. Given that A involves duplicate work for little benefit (as there weren't many updated packages), it seems to me that option B would be the best.
Regards, Erik On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Edward Kmett <ekm...@gmail.com> wrote: > As I do most of my development on a Mac I confess I currently live in fear > of accidentally clicking on the XCode 5 upgrade button and winding up in an > unsupported configuration. That makes me very leery of option C, where > developers like me are treading on egg-shells around system updates for the > next 6 months. > > -Edward > > > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Mark Lentczner <mark.lentcz...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> It wasn't my intention to open up the whole question of scheduled >> releases. HP has a regular release schedule, and there were many good >> discussions leading up to it. As for the timing of those releases, last time >> we looked into this there was no good release time that worked for all the >> common Linux distro's release schedules. Perhaps GNOME has figured this one >> out - they release stable end of September and end of March. We could aim to >> glide toward that. >> >> Back to this release: >> >> GHC 7.8 won't be ready for inclusion in an HP for quite some time. We >> haven't even seen the first release yet! If it has stabilized by end of >> February, then it could make it into the next HP (assuming we don't move the >> schedule up to match GNOME). But I think realistically, one shouldn't >> expect a GHC 7.8 as part of an HP release until 2014.4.0.0. [Aside: If the >> community wants to see closer tracking, then we probably need to start >> talking about a different way of producing GHC - with both stable and >> experimental releases happening... when this idea has been raised in the >> past, GHC central hasn't had the person-power to do it.] >> >> The next Mac OS X is indeed right around the corner (no official date from >> Apple, just "this Autumn") - the GM release candidate of both OS X Mavericks >> and Xcode 5 are already in developers (and my) hands. My understanding is >> that current HP just won't work on it - which means we really should get >> something out to support it. >> >> SO, back to concrete ideas: >> >> A) Minor release >> >> • Minor rev: since GHC and most packages haven't changed, and we won't be >> adding anything, just roll it as normal now. >> • Bump for Mac: immediately after, roll HP 2013.4.1.0 which has GHC 7.6.3 >> + patches (perhaps named 7.6.4?), so this works w/Xcode 5 >> >> —or— >> B) Delay release >> >> • New packages: running the normal process, just a month late >> >> • Bump for Mac: get GHC central to put out 7.6.4 which has what is needed >> to support Xcode 5 >> >> —or— >> C) Skip a release >> >> • Go for 7.8: push everyone (GHC central, library maintainers) to get 7.8 >> stable ASAP >> >> • Big Push for Packages: use the time to push for a significant increase >> in the packages in the Platform >> >> • Release in March: aiming to sync with GNOME, assuming they're on to >> something! >> >> >> As attractive as some aspects of C are, it leaves anyone with a Mac out in >> the cold for six months: They either can't upgrade, or can't Haskell. >> >> A requires duplicate effort (mostly on my part), but is otherwise >> mechanical... and not that exciting. >> >> B deviates from our schedule, but if GHC can roll a 7.6.4, might get us an >> HP with some new packages. >> >> — Mark >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ghc-devs mailing list >> ghc-d...@haskell.org >> http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/ghc-devs >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Libraries mailing list > librar...@haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries > _______________________________________________ Haskell-platform mailing list Haskell-platform@projects.haskell.org http://projects.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-platform
