I'd say, of course, libraries covered by the Haskell report are not in the 
remit of the libraries committee.

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From: Libraries [mailto:libraries-boun...@haskell.org] On Behalf Of Henrik 
Nilsson
Sent: 21 October 2015 09:25
To: Geoffrey Mainland; Bryan O'Sullivan; Gershom B
Cc: henrik.nils...@nottingham.ac.uk; haskell-prime@haskell.org List; Graham 
Hutton; Haskell Libraries; haskell cafe
Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Monad of no `return` Proposal (MRP): Moving 
`return` out of `Monad`

Hi all,

Geoffrey Mainland wrote;

 > What worries me most is that we have started to see very valuable  > members 
 > of our community publicly state that they are reducing their  > community 
 > involvement.

That worries me too. A lot. To quote myself from an earlier e-mail in this 
thread:

 > Therefore, please let us defer further discussion and  > ultimate decision 
 > on MRP to the resurrected  > HaskellPrime committee, which is where it 
 > properly  > belongs. Otherwise, the Haskell community itself might  > be one 
 > of the things that MRP breaks.

Geoffrey further wrote:

 > Proposal 3: A decision regarding any proposal that significantly  > affects 
 > backwards compatibility is within the purview of the Haskell  > Prime 
 > Committee, not the Core Libraries Committee.

I thus definitely support this, at least for anything related to the libraries 
covered by the Haskell report.

Indeed, I strongly suspect that many people who did not actively follow the 
libraries discussions did so because they simply did not think that changes to 
the central libraries as defined in the Haskell report, at least not breaking 
changes, were in the remit of the libraries committee, and were happy to leave 
discussions on any other libraries to the users of those libraries. And as a 
consequence they were taken by surprise by AMP etc.

So before breaking anything more, that being code, research papers, books, what 
people have learned, or even the community itself, it is time to very carefully 
think about what the appropriate processes should be for going forward.

Best,

/Henrik

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Henrik Nilsson
School of Computer Science
The University of Nottingham
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