On 2019-01-16 3:10 p.m., Oliver Charles wrote:
Is there information anywhere on the process for acceptance/rejection
criteria. It sounds like hvr can outright reject any proposal - are
there others with that power? What is generally required for acceptance?
Not meant critically, just interested
Every active member of the commitee has that power. We could
contemplate a different approach, like voting, if all members of the
commitee were active. When you have only a couple of responses to a
proposal, consensus among those who respond is the only possible way to go.
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019, 8:01 pm Mario Blažević <mblaze...@stilo.com
<mailto:mblaze...@stilo.com> wrote:
A month passed since the last call, and I'm sorry to say that the
Applicative/Monad proposal has been rejected. Herbert has vetoed it on
the grounds that it doesn't come packaged with MonadFail and
MonadOfNoReturn proposals.
This is very unfortunate because (I thought) there was finally a
glimmer
of hope for Haskell 2020. The new process used to complete the
RelaxedPolyRec proposal seemed promising, as it worked around the
commitee's letargy problem. As it turns out, that wasn't the only
problem.
In all fairness, Herbert did state [1] he intends to write up the
combination of AMP, MFP, and MNRP the way he likes it. I do hope that
happens, but when and if he submits the combined proposal, I would not
be surprised if, for example, Philippa should veto it on the grounds
that it doesn't include the ApplicativeDo proposal that she's been
vocal
about. This committee is a far cry from the one that gave us Haskell
'98.
A Haskell 2020 report with no AMP would be pointless, in my opinion, so
I'm going to suspend my work on the report until this issue is
resolved.
I still think the best course of action may be to disband the current
disfunctional committee and form a new one, as I proposed [2] before
establishing the new process.
[1] https://github.com/haskell/rfcs/pull/1#issuecomment-448126690
[2]
https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-prime/2018-October/004370.html
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