On 11/15/05, Victor Blomqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Tomasz Zielonka" <tomasz.zielonka at gmail.com> writes: > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 03:12:40PM +0000, Duncan Coutts wrote: > >> I would tend to disagree. I think the combination of the mailing lists, > >> a wiki and the IRC channel cover most of our communication needs. > > > > Personally I prefer to use mailing lists, but they have one disadvantage > > - if you don't set up filters to split incoming mail into multiple > > folders, you can be flooded with messages. > > > >> I don't think that yet another variant would help us much. Web boards > >> tend to be harder to use than email since it requires a web browser. > >> Having too many differnt types of communication channel would reduce the > >> readership of any one of them. > > "...most of our communication needs" Yes, I can agree on that, everyone > here are obviosly happy (more or less) with the mailinglists, and also I > agree that a forum would not be of any use if it was only me there. :) But > I think that especially outside the *nix/academic world, most people like > web forums better than mailing lists. > > Actually, I heard the same arguments when disucssing webforum vs news at > my institution, most old *nix-hackers prefered the news, and newer (non > *nix-hacker) students liked web forum better. Just recently a forum was > opened, but I wasn't active in the news at the time so I don't know what > tipped it over. But I definatly think it will be more used than the news > system once everything is moved there. > > My suggestion was aimed outside the haskell community of today, even if I > now see that some of the other points in Simons message was more about how > to get the users already here contribute more and better. For example, a > very large part of the users that answered Johns survey had connections to > the academic world (37% Students and 29% Working in a university) and from > my experience, those intrested in programming languages are also more used > to mailing lists than the rest of the group (at least at my university). > But maybe the rest (such Algorithm or Human Interaction students) is not > intrested in Haskell anyway, so theres no point with a forum.. > > > > > How about a forum integrated with mailing lists? > > An integrated forum is not a bad idea. As we all agree, it is not a good > idea to split the readers in 2 and I don't think its possible to get you > all to switch over at once ;) Or just a link to gmane/google/whatever > where its possible to read the mailinglist in a good way from your web > browser if such a thing already exists. But as it is now, at least I have > trouble browsing the archive compared to forums I visit.
I bet that if "someone" installed HSP on the server there'd be tons of people willing to write a forum which is integrated into the mailinglists (ie a mail to the mailing list gets posted to the forum with correct threading, and a post to the forum gets sent to the mailing list from either some [EMAIL PROTECTED] email adress or the adress of the user who posted). Plus, there's something deeply wrong about using anything PHP-based on a web site promoting Haskell as a general purpose language. Not to mention that there's something deeply wrong about using PHP period :-) Personally I like mailing lists since I used web-based email with threading capabilities anyway, but I can see how a web forum may be more accessible to the average Joe. In fact, the first time I went to haskell.org (about a year before I actually learnt the language, back in 2001) is just said "forget it" because it just didn't seem all that accessible (no forums, no easy-to-find tutorials etc.). That's certainly changed a whole lot over the last 4 years though (especially with #haskell at freenode). /S -- Sebastian Sylvan +46(0)736-818655 UIN: 44640862 _______________________________________________ Haskell mailing list Haskell@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell
