* On 2006.05.25, in <20060525184438.0926f...@pc09>,
*       "H.Merijn Brand" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Huh? I've been using UNIX since 1982. Long enough? I started with System III,
> and then got cought in a job that involved writing Unic Device drivers for
> SLD disks. I've never seen a UNIX command from that time that did not support
> -?

Many commands do/did -?.  Many also do/did -h.  I don't care which one
anyone thinks is better, just that -h has a record.  Maybe -? should
still work, too, but it doesn't mean that -h should't.

In 1982 on System III machines, how many programs that you recall
supported "--help"?


> > But the larger point is that an exception occurs (-h is not recognized
> > as an option) which triggers an error message.  Given the history of
> > -h, why should that error not be help itself, rather than metahelp?
> 
> Not at all. It should be saved for something useful.

Help isn't useful?  That's the single most useful option on any command.
It should be easy to get, and "--help" isn't a first choice for many
people and it's not supported on a HUGE number of programs.

But we're talking about commands that don't use -h for anything else,
anyway.


> Yes, to all those that only support info pages, and make their -?, --help, or
> even -h tell us to read the info pages.
> 
> info pages are useless. Give me plain man pages please, *AND* a useful --help
> or -?

+1.

Also hate on netpbm for not only removing the built-in usage statements
and telling us to read the man page instead, but for additionally
removing the actual man-page content and pointing us to a web site.

unix$ pnmtops -h
option `--height' requires an argument

unix$ pnmtops --help
pnmtops: Use 'man pnmtops' for help.

unix$ man pnmtops
pnmtops(1)                 Netpbm pointer man pages                 pnmtops(1)

pnmtops  is  part of the Netpbm package.  Netpbm documentation is kept in HTML
format.

Please refer to <http://netpbm.sourceforge.net/doc//pnmtops.html>.

If that doesn't work, also try  <http://netpbm.sourceforge.net>  and  emailing
Bryan Henderson, [email protected].

30 Mar 2003                         Netpbm                          pnmtops(1)

unix$ !! | mailx -s 'Are you responsible for this, you bloody retard?' 
[email protected]

*seethe* The "net" in "netpbm" never used to mean that you needed a
network to use the software.

-- 
 -D.    [email protected]        NSIT    University of Chicago

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