Philip Newton wrote:
On 7/10/07, Peter da Silva <[email protected]> wrote:

That means you can't depend on being able to write an include file that
can be included from C or C++.


I suspect your problems come from treating the two languages as compatible.


My problems come from the fact that C++ is used quite widely, which forces me to use it in many situations. This fact, in turn, is apparently the direct consequence of the blatant lies spread by C++ weenies at it's dawn about it being compatible to C. Which it fucking isn't. If they *didn't* make those claims as convincingly, the idiotic pile of waste would never, ever enter the life of relatively innocent people like me.

Incidentally, the fact that C++ tries to look compatible to C is responsible for at least 50% of it's most outrageous, fucked-up little behaviors (char*/std::string is one example of a billion). But of course it's better to spawn a language with 3M users (with at least 2.5M not having *the slightest clue* about what they're doing), so that you can sell books and stuff, than create a language with, say, 300K users who actually get things done in it instead of *banging their head against the fucking brick wall that your stupid language is*. Gotta be practical.

So I think I agree with you - the problems come from treating them as compatible, but don't blame *me* on this.

P.S. here's a plain software hate: I've just seen a cell phone "plugin" for using the phone abroad with less number prefixes and better pricing and stuff. The shit takes 20 minutes to install. You can compute the fucking FFT of the entire memory space of the cell phone umpteen times in 20 minutes, can't imagine what the wankers are doing there.

Anyway, the real fun starts when it's installed and you want to dial. It has it's own separate menus for dialing, one of which is supposed to search your contacts. It says: "type up to 2 letters" - which letters?! But it doesn't matter - it won't find anything no matter what you type. I hope the menu where you enter the number manually works.

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