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stack commented on HBASE-487: ----------------------------- Yeah -- license prevents bundling. If shell were optional, requiring user take optional installation step would be fine but IMO shell is core. Other jython/jruby downsides: * Size on disk. JRuby is 25M just counting ruby classes and jar. Jython is smaller. Would need to trim either (Beanshell is small). * JRuby is more awkward to integrate than jython/groovy/beanshell * Jython is a python that is 6 years old -- 2.2.1 (From michael B). In the past, its been awkward having to remember the old syntax when you've been used to modern cpythons (I wonder what groovy's grails is like as a RonR clone) > Replace hql w/ a hbase-friendly jirb or jython shell > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Key: HBASE-487 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-487 > Project: Hadoop HBase > Issue Type: Wish > Reporter: stack > Assignee: stack > Priority: Minor > Attachments: groovy.patch > > > The hbase shell is a useful admin and debugging tool but it has a couple of > downsides. To extend, a fragile parser definition needs tinkering-with and > new java classes must be added. The current test suite for hql is lacking > coverage and the current code could do with a rewrite having evolved > piecemeal. Another downside is that the presence of an HQL interpreter gives > the mis-impression that hbase is like a SQL database. > This 'wish' issue suggests that we jettison HQL and instead offer users a > jirb or jython command line. We'd ship with some scripts and jruby/jython > classes that we'd source on startup to do things like import base client > classes -- so folks wouldn't have to remember all the packages stuff sat in > -- and added a pretty-print for scanners and getters outputting text, xhtml > or binary. They would also make it easy to do HQL-things in jruby/python > script. > Advantages: Already-written parser with no need of extension probing deeper > into hbase: i.e. better for debugging than HQL could ever be. Easy extension > adding scripts/modules rather than java code. Less likely hbase could be > confused for a SQL db. > Downsides: Probably more verbose. Requires ruby or python knowledge > ("Everyone knows some sql"). Big? (jruby lib is 24M). > I was going to write security as downside but HQL suffers this at the moment > too -- though it has been possible to sort the updates from the selects in > the UI to prevent modification of the db from the UI, something that would be > hard to do in a jruby/jython parser. > What do others think? -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.