Dear all,

I think the impact of this patent should not be underestimated. If Hadoop/HBase is only an educational system and not used by anybody for any business then I agree there is no threat to the community... but if companies are relaying on it to do business (and some started to evaluate the use of Hadoop/HBase in commercial systems) then the companies businesses or products might be threatened. This means, unless something is done, companies cannot select Hadoop/HBase anymore for implementations because this is too much of a risk... which is in fact the biggest threat to hadoop... it was becoming popular and companies started to consider supporting it (providing development resources...) because this was a possible platform for their businesses...

In my opinion a healthy attitude to this would be to analyse what was actually *really* protected and be creative on how hadoop could/should differentiate. Because if hadoop is just a 1:1 replica of the Google system, then there is no chance that it will attract more than the academic community and its nice success story is going to end here... I see enough intellectual power in the team to be able to take the Google patent and produce the next generation...

My two cents,
Laurence Hubert



----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Kay" <kaykay.uni...@gmail.com>
To: <hbase-dev@hadoop.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: Google patent over Map Reduce - Hbase reflections


On 1/20/10 3:44 PM, stack wrote:
I've been following the thread. I would tend to side with the general tenor
that has it that its likely a just-in-case move by Google and that the
likelihood of a Google suing Apache is not likely to happen in this
dimension.


That was my general idea as well.

Are you (or your employer) spooked Kay Kay?


Not at all - but just started this to see what the opinions of the
community might be w.r.t. this.

St.Ack


On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Kay Kay<kaykay.uni...@gmail.com>  wrote:


A big thread currently going on at the hadoop common user mailing list -

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-common-user/201001.mbox/<
2c36b701001200817g77f245b1x6ba9d7d2cfd9e...@mail.gmail.com>  .

A good number of you might have already seen that thread, but just opening up a thread for discussion to see what the thoughts of the community are , w.r.t. patent and how much (if at all) of the application would be related to that / any refactorings as necessary as seen by the team or thoughts in
general to the same.









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