i meant even if we were using hostnames for RS registration (which i
think has lot of advantages - not necessarily in our environment
though) - the master processing of the heartbeat (or whatever it's
processing) shouldn't require a forward lookup. if it needs the ip
address - it already has that via the connection object.

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Karthik Ranganathan
<kranganat...@facebook.com> wrote:
> Yup totally - either name or ip would work. Not sure if there is a pro or a 
> con to choosing either one - but thought it better to use the ip as that 
> always remains the same (no resolve required) and used to open the sockets.
>
> @jd-cryans: Saw your JIRA update: "One example of weirdness is when the 
> region server is told which address to use according to the master:"
>
> Was meaning to ask about that too :) its all good now.
>
> Thanks
> Karthik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joydeep Sarma [mailto:jsensa...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:01 AM
> To: hbase-dev@hadoop.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Cannot locate root region
>
> hmmm .. if the master doesn't need the RS ip address at this point -
> seems like it should be able to use the hostname offered by the RS
> directly?
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Karthik Ranganathan
> <kranganat...@facebook.com> wrote:
>> The master does another lookup independent of the region server using the 
>> hostname given by the region server:
>>
>> ServerManager.java, regionServerReport() does:
>>    HServerInfo storedInfo = serversToServerInfo.get(info.getServerName()); 
>> // info.getServerName() is hostname
>>
>> Which eventually does:
>>        HServerAddress.getHostname()
>>
>> HServerAddress' constructor creates the InetSocketAddress from the 
>> hostname:port, which involves mapping the hostname to the ip address using a 
>> lookup.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Karthik
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joydeep Sarma [mailto:jsensa...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:46 AM
>> To: hbase-dev@hadoop.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Cannot locate root region
>>
>> @Kannan - Karthik's mail said the reverse lookup happens in the RS
>> (not the master). the master simply tried to match the offered
>> hostname.
>>
>> i dont know whose reading is right - but if it's the RS - i didn't
>> understand why that wasn't just the reverse lookup done once at
>> bootstrap time (which wouldn't be affected by ongoing DNS badness).
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Jean-Daniel Cryans <jdcry...@apache.org> 
>> wrote:
>>> I just created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-2174
>>>
>>> We handle addresses in different ways depending on which part of the
>>> code you're in. We should correct that everywhere by implementing a
>>> solution that also solves what you guys are seeing.
>>>
>>> J-D
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Kannan Muthukkaruppan
>>> <kan...@facebook.com> wrote:
>>>> @Joy: The info stored in .META. for various regions as well as in the 
>>>> ephemeral nodes for region servers in zookeeper are both already IP 
>>>> address based. So doesn't look like multi-homing and/or the other 
>>>> flexibilities you mention were a design goal as far as I can tell.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding: <<< doesn't the reverse ip lookup just once at RS startup 
>>>> time?>>>, what seems to be happening is this:
>>>>
>>>> A regionServer periodically sends a regionServerReport (RPC call) to the 
>>>> master. A HServerInfo argument is passed as an argument and it identifies 
>>>> the sending region server's identity in IP address format.
>>>>
>>>> The master, in ServerManager class, maintains a serversToServerInfo map 
>>>> which is hostname based. Every time a master receives a regionServerReport 
>>>> it converts the IP address based name to a hostname via the 
>>>> info.getServerName() call. Normally this call returns the hostname, but we 
>>>> suspect that during the DNS flakiness, it returned an IP address based 
>>>> string. And so, this caused ServerManager.java to think that it was 
>>>> hearing from a new server. And this lead to:
>>>>
>>>>  HServerInfo storedInfo = serversToServerInfo.get(info.getServerName());
>>>>    if (storedInfo == null) {
>>>>      if (LOG.isDebugEnabled()) {
>>>>        LOG.debug("Received report from unknown server -- telling it " +   
>>>> <<============
>>>>          "to " + CALL_SERVER_STARTUP + ": " + info.getServerName());  
>>>> <<============
>>>>      }
>>>>
>>>> and bad things down the road.
>>>>
>>>> The above error message in our logs (example below) indeed identified the 
>>>> host in IP address syntax, even though normally the getServerName call 
>>>> would return the info in hostname format.
>>>>
>>>> 2010-01-28 11:21:34,539 DEBUG 
>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.master.ServerManager: Received report from unknown 
>>>> server -- telling it to MSG_CALL_SERVER_STARTUP: 
>>>> 10.129.68.203,60020,1263605543210
>>>>
>>>> This affected three of our test clusters at the same time!
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps all we need to do is to change the ServerManager's internal maps 
>>>> to all be IP based? That way we avoid/bypass the master having to look up 
>>>> the hostname on every heartbeat.
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> Kannan
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Joydeep Sarma [jsensa...@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:20 AM
>>>> To: hbase-dev@hadoop.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Cannot locate root region
>>>>
>>>> hadoop also uses the hostnames. if a host is multi-homed - it's
>>>> hostname is a better identifier (which still allows it to use
>>>> different nics/ips for actual traffic). it can help in the case the
>>>> cluster is migrated for example (all the ips change). one could have
>>>> the same hostname resolve to different ips depending on who's doing
>>>> the lookup (this happens in AWS where the same elastic hostname
>>>> resolves to private or public ip depending on where the peer is. so
>>>> clients can talk from outside AWS via public ips and master etc. can
>>>> talk over private ips).
>>>>
>>>> so lots of reasons i guess. doesn't the reverse ip lookup just once at
>>>> RS startup time? (wondering how this reconciles with the  DNS being
>>>> flaky after the cluster was up and running).
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Karthik Ranganathan
>>>> <kranganat...@facebook.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We did some more digging into this and here is the theory.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. The regionservers use their local ip to lookup their hostnames and 
>>>>> pass that to the HMaster. The HMaster finds the server info by using this 
>>>>> hostname as the key in the HashMap.
>>>>>
>>>>> HRegionServer.java
>>>>> reinitialize() -
>>>>> this.serverInfo = new HServerInfo(new HServerAddress(
>>>>>      new InetSocketAddress(address.getBindAddress(),
>>>>>      this.server.getListenerAddress().getPort())), 
>>>>> System.currentTimeMillis(),
>>>>>      this.conf.getInt("hbase.regionserver.info.port", 60030), 
>>>>> machineName);
>>>>>
>>>>> In run() -
>>>>> HMsg msgs[] = hbaseMaster.regionServerReport(
>>>>>              serverInfo, outboundArray, getMostLoadedRegions());
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. I have observed in the past that there could be some DNS flakiness 
>>>>> which causes the IP address of the machines to be returned as their 
>>>>> hostnames. Guessing this is what happened.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. The HMaster looks in the map for the above IP address (masquerading as 
>>>>> the server name). It gets and does not find the entry in its map. So it 
>>>>> assumes that this is a new region server and issues a CALL_SERVER_STARTUP.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. The region server that receives it is in fact already running (under 
>>>>> its real hostname) and enters the "HMaster panic" mode and bad stuff 
>>>>> happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> ServerManager.java in regionServerReport() -
>>>>>    HServerInfo storedInfo = serversToServerInfo.get(info.getServerName());
>>>>>    if (storedInfo == null) {
>>>>>      // snip...
>>>>>      return new HMsg[] {CALL_SERVER_STARTUP};
>>>>>    }
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any reason why we use the hostname instead of the ip address in the map 
>>>>> that stores the regionserver info?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Karthik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Karthik Ranganathan [mailto:kranganat...@facebook.com]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:58 PM
>>>>> To: hbase-dev@hadoop.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Cannot locate root region
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ran into some issues while testing and wanted to understand what has 
>>>>> happened better. Got the following exception when I went to the web UI
>>>>>
>>>>> Trying to contact region server 10.129.68.204:60020 for region .META.,,1, 
>>>>> row '', but failed after 3 attempts.
>>>>> Exceptions:
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.NotServingRegionException: 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.NotServingRegionException: .META.,,1
>>>>>        at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.regionserver.HRegionServer.getRegion(HRegionServer.java:2254)
>>>>>        at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.regionserver.HRegionServer.openScanner(HRegionServer.java:1837)
>>>>>        at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor4.invoke(Unknown Source)
>>>>>        at 
>>>>> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
>>>>>        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
>>>>>        at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.ipc.HBaseRPC$Server.call(HBaseRPC.java:648)
>>>>>        at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.ipc.HBaseServer$Handler.run(HBaseServer.java:915)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From a program that reads from a HBase table:
>>>>> java.lang.reflect.UndeclaredThrowableException
>>>>>        at $Proxy1.getRegionInfo(Unknown Source)
>>>>>        at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.client.HConnectionManager$TableServers.locateRootRegion(HConnectionManager.java:985)
>>>>>        at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.client.HConnectionManager$TableServers.locateRegion(HConnectionManager.java:625)
>>>>>        at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.client.HConnectionManager$TableServers.locateRegion(HConnectionManager.java:601)
>>>>>        at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.client.HConnectionManager$TableServers.locateRegionInMeta(HConnectionManager.java:675)
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Followed  up on the hmaster's log:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010-01-28 11:21:16,148 INFO org.apache.hadoop.hbase.master.BaseScanner: 
>>>>> RegionManager.metaScanner scan of 1 row(s) of meta region {server: 
>>>>> 10.129.68.204:60020, regionname: .META.,,1, startKey: <>} complete
>>>>> 2010-01-28 11:21:16,148 INFO org.apache.hadoop.hbase.master.BaseScanner: 
>>>>> All 1 .META. region(s) scanned
>>>>> 2010-01-28 11:21:34,539 DEBUG 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.master.ServerManager: Received report from 
>>>>> unknown server -- telling it to MSG_CALL_SERVER_STARTUP: 
>>>>> 10.129.68.203,60020,1263605543210
>>>>> 2010-01-28 11:21:35,622 INFO 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.master.ServerManager: Received start message 
>>>>> from: hbasetest004.ash1.facebook.com,60020,1264706494600
>>>>> 2010-01-28 11:21:36,649 DEBUG 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.zookeeper.ZooKeeperWrapper: Updated ZNode 
>>>>> /hbase/rs/1264706494600 with data 10.129.68.203:60020
>>>>> 2010-01-28 11:21:40,704 INFO org.apache.hadoop.ipc.HBaseServer: IPC 
>>>>> Server handler 39 on 60000, call createTable({NAME => 'test1', FAMILIES 
>>>>> => [{NAME => 'cf1', VERSIONS => '3', COMPRESSION => 'NONE', TTL => 
>>>>> '2147483647', BLOCKSIZE => '65536', IN_MEMORY => 'false', BLOCKCACHE => 
>>>>> 'true'}]}) from 10.131.29.183:63308: error: 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.TableExistsException: test1
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.TableExistsException: test1
>>>>>        at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.master.HMaster.createTable(HMaster.java:792)
>>>>>        at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.master.HMaster.createTable(HMaster.java:756)
>>>>>        at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor6.invoke(Unknown Source)
>>>>>        at 
>>>>> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
>>>>>        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
>>>>>        at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.ipc.HBaseRPC$Server.call(HBaseRPC.java:648)
>>>>>        at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.ipc.HBaseServer$Handler.run(HBaseServer.java:915)
>>>>>
>>>>> From a hregionserver's logs:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010-01-28 11:20:22,589 DEBUG 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.io.hfile.LruBlockCache: Cache Stats: Sizes: 
>>>>> Total=19.661453MB (20616528), Free=2377.0137MB (2492479408), 
>>>>> Max=2396.675MB (2513095936), Counts: Blocks=0, Access=0, Hit=0, Miss=0, 
>>>>> Evictions=0, Evicted=0, Ratios: Hit Ratio=NaN%, Miss Ratio=NaN%, 
>>>>> Evicted/Run=NaN
>>>>> 2010-01-28 11:21:22,588 DEBUG 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.io.hfile.LruBlockCache: Cache Stats: Sizes: 
>>>>> Total=19.661453MB (20616528), Free=2377.0137MB (2492479408), 
>>>>> Max=2396.675MB (2513095936), Counts: Blocks=0, Access=0, Hit=0, Miss=0, 
>>>>> Evictions=0, Evicted=0, Ratios: Hit Ratio=NaN%, Miss Ratio=NaN%, 
>>>>> Evicted/Run=NaN
>>>>> 2010-01-28 11:22:18,794 INFO 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.regionserver.HRegionServer: 
>>>>> MSG_CALL_SERVER_STARTUP
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The code says the following:
>>>>>              case MSG_CALL_SERVER_STARTUP:
>>>>>                // We the MSG_CALL_SERVER_STARTUP on startup but we can 
>>>>> also
>>>>>                // get it when the master is panicking because for instance
>>>>>                // the HDFS has been yanked out from under it.  Be wary of
>>>>>                // this message.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas on what is going on? The best I can come up with is perhaps a 
>>>>> flaky DNS - would that explain this? This happened on three of our test 
>>>>> clusters at almost the same time. Also, what is the most 
>>>>> graceful/simplest way to recover from this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Karthik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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