On -9/01/37 05:59, Ryan Rawson wrote:
So the previous use of volatile for a boolean seems like a textbook
case, but the situation i discovered was pretty clear cut. I have no
other explanation than a highly delayed volatile read (which are
allowed).

I don't see that they are allowed, actually.

Section 17.4.5 of the JLS says that:

* An unlock on a monitor happens-before every subsequent lock on that monitor.
* A write to a volatile field (§8.3.1.4) happens-before every subsequent read 
of that field.

IOW, the situations (unlock-then-lock) and (volatile-write then volatile-read) have the same visibility guarantees.

Section 8.3.1.4 says:

A field may be declared volatile, in which case the Java memory model (§17)  
ensures that all threads see a consistent value for the variable.

In your case, the thread calling done() is not seeing the same value as the thread calling run(), which is not consistent.

And for good measure Java Concurrency in Practice makes it much more explicit (emphasis mine):

Volatile variables are not cached in registers or in caches where they are 
hidden from other processors, so *a read of a volatile variable always returns 
the most recent write by any thread*.

And finally, on changing to an AtomicBoolean fixing the problem, JCIP says:

Atomic variables offer the same memory semantics as volatile variables

So this doesn't really make sense either.

All that's a long way of saying that the only ways I can see your situation happening are:

* pre-Java-1.5 (and hence pre-JSR-133) JVM
* JVM with a bug
* ordering is not as you expect, i.e. the actual chronological order is not:

    THREAD 1                 THREAD 2
    spawn new thread
                             run()
    done()
    join()

but rather:

    THREAD 1                 THREAD 2
    spawn new thread
    done()
                             run()
    join()

in which case the set of run to false at the start of run() overwrites the set of it to true at the start of done(), and you're in for infinite loop fun.

Cheers,

Paul

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